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  1. Richard Christoph says:

    A beautiful 1st day of October here in sunny Far Northern California and we have much for which to be thankful.

  2. Happy October 1!
    Question: Have you or family been the victims of crime? If so, what was the crime, when was it, and did you report it? (If not, why not.) What’s your city?

    I’ll go first: First time was six years, when my car window was smashed in after I’d stupidly left my purse locked in my car at the Cypress Square Shopping Center for a 5:45 a.m. Jazzercise class. I did call the police to report it, and an officer arrived and took the information. The purse was never found.

    The second time was last month when my locked car was parked in my sister’s driveway and ransacked sometime during the night. I tried to report it via the RPD website, but it was such a mess of questions that I quit, so it was never reported. I live in Redding.

    • Tim says:

      Let’s see if I can remember…

      ~8 years ago: window to rental outbuilding broken and pillow, blanket, and drug paraphernalia found inside (first time I ever saw indications of heroin usage — burnt spoon). Called non emergency line, waited a few hours, and eventually left before anyone responded. I suspect it was the former (evicted) tenant.

      ~7 years ago: car window broken at Raley’s shopping center, compartments rifled through, nothing taken (nothing to take). Police came quickly and took report.

      Few months later: car stolen from movies 8. Reported, police arrived in ~90 minutes (which is a looong time to stare at an empty parking space). Police found the car a week later across town with a sloppy lock & ignition and a seat that was fully reclined (seriously, who can drive like that?!). Thankfully I beat the tow truck to the scene so I didn’t have to pay impound fees on top of everything else…

      ~5 years ago: Bicycle stolen from my garage in a “nice neighborhood.” Reported, police came hours later, basically blamed me for leaving the side door unlocked (behind my fence).

      ~around the same time: Window broken in vacant rental home and saw indications of druggies camping/squatting. Not reported

      ~3 years ago: power tools stolen from rental undergoing repairs. Not reported

      ~1 year ago: storage locker burgled, old computer & printer stolen. Unreported.

      Few months later: car window broken and radio ripped from dash while parked by the Pine St School. Attempted to report online, gave up.

      Every few months I’m the victim of petty vandalism, usually stuff like ripping down a “no parking” sign, dumping garbage, putting up unauthorized political signs on vacant lot, tagging graffiti on a fence/wall, etc. I no longer report, it is faster/easier to just deal with it myself.

      To date, no one has been caught and, aside from the car, nothing returned.

  3. Common Sense says:

    To say #45 had a rough week last week is an Understatement! From Dissing on the Mayor of Puerto Rico to not knowing who the leader of North Korea is….well let’s just say….the party….It’s really just getting Started!

    It’s about time for another Bombshell…….I have a $20.00 on us seeing something Very interesting in the next 7 days….

    And let us all not forget….you Can’t Pardon your way out of any “State” Level Charges……so look for more of the low hanging Fruit to Flip here really Soon!…..

    So as Mueller continues with his “Interviews” with Whitehouse staff let us also keep this in mind… If they lie, it’s a crime. If they refuse to cooperate, it’s a crime. If they participated in a coverup, they’re guilty of conspiracy to obstruct justice. If they witnessed a felony and failed to report it, they’re guilty of misprision of a felony.

    Can you see why so many will be “Flipping” very soon?

    When you wallow in the Mud….you come out dirty…..

    Flip….or Trip……their choice……a Trip to the Federal Corrections Center? or Sing Like a Canary……I have another 20.00 on some real flippers here SOON!

  4. Joanne Lobeski Snyder says:

    One “not too serious” crime story I will share was that a bicycle my brother had built for me (after my first bicycle was stolen) was stolen shortly after I first arrived in Redding. I periodically would go to the Police Station to check recovered bikes. One day I found my bike in the collection. The officer told me that if I had a key to the lock on the bike, I was free to take it home. I did, and was thrilled to have recovered my bike. A few years later I gave my bike to the son of a friend. It was stolen from their property shortly after.

  5. Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

    I woke up this morning to the news from Las Vegas, which made me want to go back to bed for a couple of days. Instead, I waded into the deep end—and by that I mean I read the comments, including the comments posted below the version of the story carried by our local fish-wrap. Jesus God.

    I’m not going to spend half the day online, telling hateful, crazy people that they’re hateful and crazy.

    Instead, here’s a song about how useless that is.

    • Gary Tull says:

      So few Americans understand what the second amendment is really all about.

      • cheyenne says:

        That link shows that tin foil hats are worn by the leftists too. Repeal the Second Amendment because it is a tool of slave owners and resulted in mass shootings like the recent one in LV?
        There is a grouch mindset affecting old, yes white men, as they age. While Las Vegas was an extreme example there are smaller incidents happening around the country. Here in Cheyenne there were two this past year. A retirement home resident brought a rifle into the home and shot three residents playing a poker game in the foyer. My kitty corner neighbor screwed all the house windows shut from the inside and then shot his wife and himself.
        I refuse to become another grouchy old man like so many do. I try to smile all the time and show patience to others. I call it the grouchy old man effect and it is more a mental issue than a gun issue.

  6. Beverly Stafford says:

    Nope, not much to cheer about this AM.

  7. cheyenne says:

    Agree about the comments, Steve.
    But for good news I’m enjoying my coffee watching the first snow fall and the Rockies are turning white.

    • cheyenne says:

      Interesting link and if you read the whole article it points out that Singapore healthcare is neither cheap nor evenly split among patients, the rich get better care than the poor just like here in America.

  8. Common Sense says:

    Prominent Member of Trumps Cabinet Makes Sizable Investment in the Cannabis Industry. Shane McMahon knows what’s up!

  9. Gary Tull says:

    This Shooting Isn’t About Gun Control We Refuse To Pass, It’s About Access To Mental Health Care We’re Continuing To Gut

  10. Tim says:

    Chico billboard depicting Trump as Hitler makes national news:

    The used clothing store also boasts a webpage depicting a white policeman getting his head split in two…

    • Common Sense says:

      Wow!….Pushing the Envelope on that one ( Short lived Billboard)…..betting they get Audited by the IRS once that gets back to the Cheetoe in Chief!

      Who’s next to Go??….I have my money on John Kelly or Rex Tillerson for the next departure!….Possible Kelly Ann after that……

      Things are heating up…..more departures….firings……leaked news……heck….we are just at the end of the First Quarter in this ball game!

  11. Tim says:

    Google’s War on Right continues… YouTube censors Mike Rowe (of Dirty Jobs) video for telling kids to follow opportunity, not passion:

  12. K Beck says:

    The other major problem is the education system that pushes people into degrees where there are no jobs. Forget about the “passion” thing.
    It is great that Shasta College has a welding program. However, they are pumping out welders when there aren’t enough jobs in Redding. They fail to tell their students they will probably have to leave Shasta Co. in order to find a job. Works OK, IF you don’t have a spouse who is working in Shasta Co. and/or children attending school here. Uprooting your whole family is not a minor thing.

    I got my elementary teaching credential from a state college that was touting teaching careers. Great. However, that was at a time when, in CA (and other states, as well, I found out after I had the credential in hand), elementary schools were closing down due to lack of enrollment. Baby boomers were waiting until they were older to have children! Some of my graduating class ended up teaching at private schools, where the pay was so low they had to move back in with their parents. I know, I know, that is the norm now, but I am talking about the mid-70s. NO ONE moved back in with their parents. I would have had to move to a Southern State to find a job. No way Jose! So, I continued working at my night job in the Semi-conductor industry. Turned out to be OK. I made way more money doing that instead of teaching. Down side, no CalPers pension.

    • cheyenne says:

      It depends on where you live. At LCCC, the community college here in Cheyenne, welding students and diesel mechanics have jobs waiting for them before they graduate.

    • Tim says:

      There really aren’t many jobs in Redding that make full use of a college degree. If a 16 year-old wants to live all his life in Shasta County, he is literally better off dropping out of high school and pumping septic tanks while saving/investing half his paycheck. Doing so, he could probably retire a millionaire at 36 while his peers are just finishing paying off their student loans…

      • cheyenne says:

        Tim, or that Shasta County kid could stay in high school get good grades and graduate. Then do like my oldest daughter who joined the Army when she graduated from Anderson. She got her college paid for while seeing the world and now owns a house here in Cheyenne, $500,000, and a house in Alaska where she works for the US Marshals. She did do a couple of tours in Bosnia which was easier than the current sand boxes in the middle east. A lot of high school kids in rural areas with no job prospects study hard in school and join the military to pay for college and get a decent economic future. Telling them to drop out of school is for losers who want to milk the welfare system which in California pays better than manual labor jobs.

        • Tim says:

          Sure, there are lots of opportunities for those that want to leave the northstate. But not many for those who want to put down roots here.

          And college costs a lot more than tuition, room, and board. It costs time — the most critical time of your life. Einstein purportedly called compound interest the 8th wonder of the world and time is the key variable in compounding. So I’m not joking when I advocate dropping out of high school (or at the very least, rationally considering the possibility).

          A 16 year old high school dropout pumping septic tanks for $50k/year can invest $25k/year and still be living larger than his peers in school, at least for the first decade. Investing $25k/year at 7% interest for 20 years yields a $1.2 million net worth by the age of 36.

          Meanwhile, his peers go to high school for another 2 years, college for 4-5, intern for 1, college for another 2… Let’s say they manage to complete their masters by 26 with zero debt (ha!) and make $100k/year. Even if they invest $50k/year, they’ll still be ~$400,000 behind the septic-pumping dropout at age 36 AND THEY NEVER CATCH UP! And that’s assuming free college!

          Age…Grad’s net worth…dropout’s net worth
          16… $0 … $0
          26… $0 … $413k
          36… $826k … $1.2m
          46… $2.4m … $2.8m
          56… $5.5m … $5.9m
          66… $11.8m … $12.2m

          But but but EVERYONE says stay in school?! John Kenneth Galbraith derisively called such sentiment “conventional wisdom.” ~2000 years before that, the Talmud ordered prisoners freed when rabbinical panels unanimously judged a defendent guilty.

          • cheyenne says:

            Septic pumping jobs open in Shasta County-0. The days of high school dropouts going to work at any livable wage in Shasta County, or anywhere in America, are gone. The future is education.
            CDL license, free. Many trucking companies will train drivers free for a term to stay with the company, usually one year. That is how my son, graduated Anderson High, got his.
            Community college usually 2 years and earn a vocational degree. Cost-not in six figures. Stay at home while in school. 20 year old can find job with vocational degree. Healthcare jobs are the number one job hiring in every state.
            It is virtually impossible to find a job without a high school diploma anywhere, not just Shasta County.

          • Tim says:

            Aside from doing unpleasant labor (garbage sorting, septic clean out, etc), here are some jobs that do not require a diploma (but may require an apprenticeship or short training classes with no prerequisites)

            Bounty Hunter
            Heavy Equipment operator
            licensed contractor
            lawyer (apprenticeship + baby bar)
            engineer (apprenticeship + exam)

            Bank teller
            Mortgage originator

            Current $15-25/hr jobs listings not requiring diploma or GED:

            Caltrans livestock inspector I — no diploma required if you have raised livestock for 2 years (thanks 4H)… $55k
            Waste management is hiring welders and trash collectors in Corning. $20+/hr
            Sierra Pacific is hiring an entry level laborer in Anderson, get your foot in the door.
            Roseburg is hiring an entry level laborer in Weed $19
            FedEx & UPS are hiring sorters in Redding/Anderson
            Schwan’s is hiring a driver $50k
            Emerald Kingdom hiring in Red Bluff.
            Foothill Distribution hiring in Redding.

          • cheyenne says:

            Tim, in that long list of potential jobs you listed not a single one could be filled by that 16 year old you recommend dropping out of high school.

          • Tim says:

            Those who never put themselves in a position to get lucky never do. A 16 year old who keeps showing up at 7am ready to work will eventually be at the “right place at the right time.”

          • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

            The college graduate could easily catch up, using some of the assumptions that you use for the drop-out (primarily living off of $25k per year).

            A college grad making $75k per year and living off of $25k per year could invest $50k per year at 7% and rack up almost $1.35m after 15 years (to your drop-out’s 20 years).

            For both the college grad and the drop-out, the fanciful part of this thought exercise is persuading anyone to sock away half or more of their annual income. I know one person who has done it and retired at 40, and he’s a college graduate.

          • Tim says:

            Steve, I don’t think you appreciate America’s incentives for earning less income. Basically the garbage truck guy will be paying no taxes after various “low income” credits and incentives. He’ll qualify for food stamps, he’ll pay reduced rates for utilities, he can get an Obama (Reagan) phone, etc — despite being en route to becoming a millionaire by age 35. His family will have all $25,000 to live on, but the higher earning professional trying to save $75k would have just $9,700 after taxes.

            Back of envelope math:

            $100,000 gross income
            -$6,200 Social Security taxes (non refundable)
            -$1,450 Medicare taxes (non refundable)
            $92,350 before income tax

            -17,050 deduction for family of 3
            -5,500 IRA deduction
            -18,000 401(k) deduction
            $40,550 in tax deductions

            $92,350 income
            51,800 taxable income
            =$6,838 fed income tax
            =$854 CA income tax

            $92,350 income
            -6,838 fed tax
            -854 ca tax
            $84,659 after tax income
            -$75,000 desired savings
            $9,659 annual living expenses for the professional.

            VS the garbage man making $50k:

            $50,000 gross
            -3100 Social security
            -725 medicare
            $46,175 before income tax
            -$40,550 in tax deductions
            $6,175 in taxable income

            It is way more complicated than that (I’d need to use worksheets for actual numbers because there are various inflection points in deductions/credits), but those numbers are more or less in the ballpark.

          • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

            Tim — Wow…..that’s an eye-opener. So, when did you quit your career and become a septic tank pumper?

          • Tim says:

            It gets worse when you consider societal/peer pressures. The professional will need to maintain a higher standard of living (nicer house, car, clothes, club memberships, toys, etc) to fit in at work. No one is surprised when a blue collar worker shops at thrift stores, drives a beater, and lives in an old duplex (though they may be surprised to learn he owns it). It isn’t what you make, it is what you keep…

  13. Common Sense says:

    Sorry Iowa!….WE have to try and make at least one last ditch effort to try and make the ACA Not work in your State! You know…that partisan politics/try to undo everything Obama did thing…..

  14. Common Sense says:

    Senator Bob Corker is not having any of it!….amazing what happens when you have already made your decision to retire….the truth seems to oooze out….

    • Gary Tull says:

      In modern American red counties, partisan politics rule. Many in such counties vote strictly conservative regardless of how inept and awful their candidate is (notice Shasta County). Blind loyalty, I guess… but practicing blind loyalty is never wise.

      Consequently and predictably, we now have a narcissist orange toad as commander in chief who would rather golf daily than attend WH briefings and possibly learn something about his job.

      And I thought “W” was the worst.

  15. Common Sense says:

    In a “fake news” world, the neuroscientist Tali Sharot explains what convinces people—and what does not.

  16. Common Sense says:

    Bob Corker says it best…..he needs to go! Are you Ready for WWIII? What does that say when one of your
    ” Own” in Politics says these things?….

  17. cheyenne says:

    The end of an era is here. Maricopa County has closed its tent jails. Now we will see who is correct, the right as they say crime will rise or the left that say the criminals have more rights then the victims. What is interesting is the newly elected Democratic sheriff said closing the tent jail will save $4.5 million then turns around and asks the county for a $4.5 million increase in his budget.

    • Beverly Stafford says:

      I’m not a Tweeter POTUS fan, but I was pleased when he pardoned Arpaio. Obviously I didn’t know all the details about why he was arrested; however, I thought he was doing a commendable job of lowering the crime rate. I continue to think the best use of Stillwater is a tent jail since we apparently don’t have enough cell space. Criminals and those who choose to be homeless – as opposed to those who have fallen on hard times for whatever reason or who have mental health issues – could be housed there.

      • Tim says:

        Arpaio was arrested for continuing to racially profile in defiance of a federal court order (his department would disproportionately stop Hispanics and ask for proof of citizenship). It had nothing to do with the tent city.

        • cheyenne says:

          What President Obama did to Sheriff Arapio is no different than what President Trump is trying to do against sanctuary cities, including Phoenix. When President Obama threatened to withhold funds from school districts, like here in Wyoming, that wouldn’t pass transgender favorable laws the left celebrated. But when President Trump threatened to withhold funds from sanctuary cities the left went ballistic. There is a big divide in America now and we need to reread RV’s column on what guns to buy for the coming civil war.
          The Arizona Republic just had an article on the Antifascists and contrary to popular belief they are not minorities but white liberals. The APD said that the BLM and other minority groups communicate with the APD while the Antifascists hide behind masks and promote violence as an answer to peaceful protests. They even have a Phoenix Facebook page when it’s up.

          • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

            Say WHAT cheyenne?!

            Sanctuary cities merely state that they will not assist federal authorities when it comes to enforcing illegal immigration. That is not a violation of the law—it’s prioritizing the enforcement of local and state law over enforcement of federal law.

            What Arapio did was a violation of the U.S. Constitution. Two federal courts upheld his conviction. Trump pardoned him before he could even be sentenced—violating a longstanding tradition of the convicted felon: (1) serving part of his sentence, and (2) expressing contrition.

            Finally, the only people who thought Antifa members are minorities are the same people who think that most all troublemakers are minorities. And Antifa’s members aren’t “liberals” in any meaningful sense of the word, just as neo-Nazis and KKK members aren’t “conservatives” in the ordinary sense.

            Antifa’s members are mostly anarchists. They don’t believe in liberal governance, conservative governance, or any other form of governance. But, given that they don’t like government, they are particularly antagonistic toward the GOP’s current authoritarianism.

          • Tim says:

            It isn’t saying prioritize local matters, it is saying obstruct federal investigations. The current legislation threatens private citizens — landlords & employers — with civil lawsuits if they comply with ICE.

          • cheyenne says:

            Steve, what Arapio did was target criminals. Phoenix crime, was and is, was mostly in Hispanic areas committed by Hispanics on Hispanics. Who complained about Arapio? The Hispanic criminals like the spokesman who was charged with tax fraud because he told his Hispanic clients to claim their children still living in Mexico as dependents so they could receive the extra taxes monies for dependent children. I have been in Phoenix and my grandchildren live there. Arapio did nothing different than any other police department, including Redding or Cheyenne, by profiling criminals. Why doesn’t the Cheyenne Police Department profile Hispanics, we probably have as many as Phoenix? Because the Hispanics here don’t commit the crimes, whites do. And criminal whites are profiled just like minority criminals.
            As far as the Antifas I just relayed what the Arizona Republic wrote in their articles. And what the message is they send. And I did think they were mostly minorities and was surprised they are not. According to the Arizona Republic the Antifias are young white college students. Go argue with them instead of the messenger. The Arizona Republic should be mandatory reading for everyone but the liberals won’t read it because it doesn’t agree with them like conservatives don’t read The Washington Post because it doesn’t agree with them. I read both and both have excellent articles that show both sides of an issue.

          • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

            Cheyenne — Apario didn’t get convicted of the crime of targeting Hispanic criminals. He got convicted of targeting *Hispanics.* Nobody has ever argued that there are no Hispanic criminals in Maricopa County. There are, but it’s unconstitutional for the Sheriff to then treat nearly all Hispanics as suspects, which is what he did. As a result, he’s a criminal himself.

            As far as Antifa goes: Yes, they are mostly young and white. That’s not what I was refuting. You said they’re *liberals.* They’re not. They’re anarchists. If the Arizona Republic called them liberals, the Arizona Republic is a rag.

          • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

            Tim — I’m familiar the most common forms of sanctuary city resolutions—including Davis and Sacramento—and none that I know of come within miles of punishing anyone for dropping a dime to ICE. They simply state that the local authorities won’t treat anyone differently based on their immigration status. In the most extreme cases, the resolutions instruct the police not to ask someone they’ve arrested about their immigration status.

            You say: “The current legislation threatens private citizens — landlords & employers — with civil lawsuits if they comply with ICE.”

            The current legislation? You do realize that there is no single, unifying sanctuary city legislation, right? It’s city-by-city. And I call bullshit on your broad suggestion that all, or even most, threaten private citizens with civil lawsuits if they cooperate with ICE.

            Here’s the biggest threat being tossed around: It’s our authoritarian POTUS threatening to withhold federal funding from cities that refuse to cooperate with ICE. Those cities, ironically, are the sources of most federal revenue.

            I know you fancy yourself a libertarian, but I’m starting to see you as a pseudo-libertarian who—when you peel off the sheepskin—is just another conservative authoritarian wolf. The woods is full of ’em around here.

          • cheyenne says:

            Steve, I respectfully disagree with your opinion of Arapio and as far as your opinion of the Arizona Republic I see you don’t read it. As far as Antifias they, according to the AR, mingle with the peaceful protesters, mostly minorities who want nothing to do with them. Whether the Antifias are liberal, white or purple or anarchists they are cowards who hide behind masks just like the ISIS terrorists.

          • Tim says:

            AB450 – forbids employers from cooperating with ICE without a court order.

            AB291 – forbids landlords from inquiring about the immigration status of prospective tenants and from cooperating with federal law enforcement except in the case of federal housing voucher or with a court order. Establishes a tenant’s right to sue civilly for harassment if a landlord’s cooperation or threat of cooperation with ICE causes a vacancy before the lease ends.

            Both bills have been signed by Brown.

            Yes, I am a Libertarian. I’d love to have open borders. But not as long as we’re an entitlement country $120 trillion in debt (that is 30+ years’ federal revenue). California is in worse shape on a comparative basis.

            It is no coincidence that Canada, Australia, and most EU countries have immigration policies at least as strict as the US (and often stricter).

  18. Common Sense says:

    General John Kelly… to go?…..If you look at the things said….and the things not said….follow the Pathology…you come up with General Kelly the next to be dismissed at the #45 Circus!

    Followed by Rex Tillerson…’s hard to get past that “He’s a Moron” comment that was credited to Tillerson earlier in the year……that might be eating on #45 a LOT…..

    I will throw a $20.00 on Kelly’s Departure prior to the end of this Month…..another $20.00 on Tillersons by the end of the year!

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      Kelly and Tillerson have reportedly discussed how to justify stopping our unhinged POTUS if he suddenly lunges for the nuclear football. It’s tricky, because constitutionally Trump is Commander-in-Chief. They’ll have to play the “he’s bat-shit crazy” card.

      I’m not so sure we should be dancing a jig about the only two adults remaining in the White House heading down the road.

      • Common Sense says:

        Hello Steve, oh I am not Celebrating the exit of Kelly and Tillerson…that’s for sure…I am just calling what I see. IN fact….it would be a detriment to have anyone leave that has helped keep #45’s shaky finger off the Red Button!

        The Implosion at the W.H is in full swing…..the only things up in the air are…what charges are forthcoming to the Entire Cabinet and members of it and who does jail time…..the flipping has Commenced!

        I would not be shocked if Carter Page’s door doesn’t get knocked down if it already hasn’t yet! Why let Manafort have all the fun…..

        I keep hearing why doesn’t the president have good things to say…why isn’t he showing compassion for the residents of P.R or the Victims of the fires? He Can’t….it’s His Pathology! He doesn’t have Empathy…..he cares only about him self….that is OBVIOUS to anyone with Critical Thinking Skills…..You can’t tell a tiger to change his stripes…..

  19. Hal Johnson Hal Johnson says:

    My favorite performance this week.

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      Thanks, Hal—I had to share that on Facebook. I’m not going to say I hope they’re staying safe, because risk is the nature of their job, and a lot of their compensation is hazard pay and overtime. But I do hope they’re hanging in there.

      A Hotshot crew saved our Palo Cedro home during the Jones Fire in 1999—I gladly pay the much-hated annual fire protection fee. Though as these recent fires prove, it’s not just rural homes that are at risk.

    • K. Beck says:

      This now says “This video is unavailable” do you have a URL?

  20. Tim says:

    Once again, ignorant legislators botch a gun control bill…

    Seth Moulton (Massachusetts Democrat) and Carlos Curbelo (Florida Republican) introduced a bill that would make it illegal to have “any part or combination of parts that is designed and functions to increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle.”

    If you’re for “common sense” gun control, that probably sounds just fine and dandy. But if you’re a shooter, it means your custom trigger job with a lighter spring and shorter reset (modifications making a gun more accurate) would become illegal because it ever-so-slightly increases the rate of fire. It also would make illegal that stiffer recoil spring which helps Grandpa’s colt 1911 feed modern day defense ammunition. Neither modification comes close to a bump-stock’s automatic rate of fire, but technically they have the potential to help a 2nd shot arrive a few milliseconds before it would otherwise…

    These legislators could have instead banned any device which allows the trigger to be depressed at a rate faster than a human can move his finger. But no, they over reached, as non gun owners are wont to do…

    And while banning bumpstocks may appease clamoring groundlings, the fact remains that a shoelace or couple rubber bands is all it takes to throw $50 worth of ammo downrange in 3 seconds from an otherwise legal firearm. The genie is out of the bottle…

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      You’re presenting a strong argument for an Australian-style buy-back of all the ridiculous military-style weaponry that they found in scheisse-for-brains’ hotel suite, because clearly nibbling around the edges isn’t going to accomplish a damned thing.

      Glad to see you’ve come to your senses.

      • Tim says:

        That would most assuredly lead to another civil war.

        If you were serious about ending “gun” violence, you’d want to disband the marines, cut the army & air force to the bone, and exchange our standing military for a citizen militia as the founding fathers intended. I’m sure the families of the 500,000 killed in the wars on those threatening our middle eastern oil supply would appreciate it.

        • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

          I’m more in favor of a negotiated divorce than a civil war. California, Oregon, Washington and Hawaii would form a new nation called “Pacifica.” (I would want to include Colorado, but that would be awkward.) New England can do their thing as well. The Dirty South can form the fascist authoritarian nation that they so badly desire. Texas would for sure want to become the nation of Texas. The Great Red Interior could form Brokeassistan.

          People could migrate to the places that suit them. On that note, I don’t know why people who hate California don’t just move. It’s not that hard.

          Australia didn’t descend into civil war when they initiated their buy-back program. It says something about the level of craziness of America’s gun-humpers that they’d go to war and kill people over their supposed right to own military-style weapons.

          Your notion of replacing the military with something akin to what they have in Switzerland isn’t something that I’d dismiss out of hand. Switzerland gets by with a “well-regulated militia” (the quotation marks are around an obscure clause of a sentence that I read somewhere). What we have in America in the way of armed citizens in no way represents a well-regulated militia. We have well-armed yahoos.

          • K. Beck says:

            Switzerland has a defensible nation. That is how they survived WWII. They closed down all the incoming roads. Not easy to do today with airplanes and missiles.

            I would vote for “Pacifica” in a heart beat! I have been talking about the same thing, but left out Hawaii. CA, depending on what info you look at, sends more money to DC than what it gets back. We are funding all those “other” states that hate our guts.

            During the Clinton impeachment fiasco I read an article by an Australian journalist that ended with a line that went something like this: “Thank God we got the prisoners!” IRT the US getting the Puritans. I love to see how others view us!

          • Tim says:

            Why not leave? Many of us were here before Reynolds v. Sims caused the decline of rural California and have generations of family living here to consider.

            Why didn’t Australians revolt? Australia is much more homogeneous than the US: 89% urban, 93% white, and with less than 1/10 the population. The US is 65-80% urban (depending on how you measure), 68% white, with 10+ times the population and 30% more land area.

            Incidentally, Australia now has more guns than it did before their reimbursed gun confiscation.

            Steve said “It says something about the level of craziness of America’s gun-humpers that they’d go to war and kill people over their supposed right to own military-style weapons.”

            And it says something that the thought of armed resistance takes all the fun out of depriving others of their rights. It says more that “gun control” measures to date have systematically made it more difficult for marginalized members of society to legally obtain weapons; imagine the outrage if lawmakers required comparable poll tests, background checks, and fees before voting.

          • Tim says:

            Any pro gun control folk care to explain/defend Brown signing SB 620?

  21. cheyenne says:

    In other news that doesn’t involve Trump, guns or protests. Marijuana sales in Colorado topped $1 billion in sales in just eight months this year, a new record. That sent $162 million in taxes and fees to public coffers. When the split comes Wyoming, Utah and Colorado will become Highaltitudestan and our motto will be, We have the oil and gas and more important, the water. The Monday storm brought 5 inches to Cheyenne and 10-15 inches in the Rockies. I can see snow topped peaks across the skyline from my house. And, according to the climate scientists, our section of the country will continue to receive above average moisture.

  22. Common Sense says:

    How a growing Christian movement is seeking to change America. The “Independent Network Charismatic,” or INC Churches are Gaining Traction. We have our own version of this here in Redding. As noted in the Article, Bethel took in Over $15.4 Million in Revenues, and that was in 2013!

    How is this happening you might be asking about right now?…They are reaching the younger crowd. Through Music and a message that keeps them growing…and let’s face it….if you aren’t growing…you are dying!

    INC beliefs, however, are different – their leaders are not content simply to connect individuals to God and grow congregations. Most INC Christian groups we studied seek to bring heaven or God’s intended perfect society to Earth by placing “kingdom-minded people” in powerful positions at the top of all sectors of society. I.E City Council Positions….County Supervisor positions etc…

  23. Common Sense says:

    The importance of INC Christianity lies in the fact that its proponents have a fundamentally different view of the relationship between the Christian faith and society than most Christian groups throughout American history.

    Bethel Rising to the top in the INC game…..

    • Gary Tull says:

      Interesting article link about Bethel (INC Christianity) and who stands behind it, CS. Thank you.
      I hope many view it.

    • Tim says:

      “The importance of INC Christianity lies in the fact that its proponents have a fundamentally different view of the relationship between the Christian faith and society than most Christian groups throughout American history.”

      — That statement strikes this agnostic as more than mildly amusing. It has been what, a mere 50 years since Jews were systematically excluded from most high level business and government positions? NASA still recruits heavily from the Boy Scouts of America, an organization that only recently opened its doors to women and gays, but to this day turns away agnostics and atheists.

      Folks believing in a half man, half god with supernatural abilities and the ability to rise from the dead (who, for the sake of civil discussion, we’ll call Achilles), probably shouldn’t be so quick to insinuate that the *other* guys are the ones with really crazy beliefs.

  24. Gary Tull says:

    Very recently there has been an unusual shift taking place in Washington. It may just be the realization setting in that the infected pus bag we saw on the campaign trail was the real, authentic Donald Trump and he’s not going to get better. There are too many reports coming from inside the administration expressing concern at his behavior to write this off as just another Trump storm that will soon pass. There are serious warning alarms going off all over Capitol Hill and they feel different this time. Let’s hope Robert Mueller and his team can quickly intervene and officially apply the brakes to this unhinged walking travesty before things get much worse.

    • Common Sense says:

      Indeed Gary! It only takes One person to flip and change the whole game. Mueller has 3-4 top picks to make this happen. Manafort is playing tough and has pushed all in with an F U attitude but we have Carter Page/Reince Priebus/Don McGahn/Michael Flynn and others that could be ready to flip!

      If the Republicans were smart….they would start the process Sooner rather than later….waiting too long will for certain seal the losses at the Midterms….the G.O.P is on the verge of a No Win Situation….can they be strong and do what is right or will partisanship take the ship down with its demented Captain?

      At this stage of the game….Mueller HAS a Case….he is just trying to make it airtight and bulletproof at this point…..Just one person to cut a deal and flip and the game is over….

  25. Common Sense says:

    You…yes YOU can make a difference! Excellent Documentary on how things can change for the better! You vote with your dollar….

  26. Common Sense says:

    Trump Train down to 1 bolt holding the front wheel on! After losing a back wheel already and sparks flying….this train is about to run off the tracks! The grass fire this train has started is bound to wipe out the ACA and all things Obama did…..the damage is done…..Like a Frat Boy who knows he is about to be thrown out of his apartment for paying rent for 4 months…..some last attempts at destroying the building on the way out….

    “It is no longer possible to safely ignore the leaked cries for help coming from within the administration. They reveal a president raging against enemies, obsessed by slights, deeply uninformed and incurious, unable to focus, and subject to destructive whims. A main task of the chief of staff seems to be to shield him from dinner guests and telephone calls that might set him off on a foolish or dangerous tangent. Much of the White House senior staff seems bound, not by loyalty to the president, but by a duty to protect the nation from the president.” -Michael Gerson, Republican Party.

  27. Common Sense says:

    Well now we know why Manafort was so sweet on Russia! Those are some big numbers there….holy cow!

  28. cheyenne says:

    And in other news that doesn’t include Trump, guns or protests. Phoenix’s tent prison will now become an opioid treatment center. Also, the town of Gilbert has axed it’s contract with Big League Dreams as their vision of a multi sports complex never came about. Now both sides are headed to the courts where tax payer dollars will be spent on top of the losses Gilbert has already seen.

  29. Common Sense says:

    Not all of the Republican Party’s Problems were caused by Trump…He is just the Figurehead! The GOP has some serious thinking to do here….will they get their tax cuts for the Rich done if they Axe the Orange Man?…Will they go down in flames if they don’t in the Mid Terms?

    And the sad fact is…the Dem’s don’t have much going for them Either! Who is their Leader??? Where are they coming from? What’s THEIR plan?

  30. Common Sense says:

    The Pot calling the Kettle Black or a Good Samaritan? You be the judge…..It’s $10 Million Smackers for goodness sake!

  31. cheyenne says:

    In other news that doesn’t include Trump, guns or protests, Prescott Valley, Arizona has plans to build 2900 solar homes. A past problem, water supply, may be solved as the Colorado River Indian Tribes, CRIT, are proposing to sell water to the state. CRIT gets 24% of Arizona’s share of Colorado River water and during drought years when other agencies receive cuts CRIT gets it’s full share. As one spokesman stated, “Lake Mead and Lake Powell would have to be dry before CRIT didn’t receive water”.

  32. Common Sense says:

    #45 Has made the world a much more dangerous place…but what can we do about it?

  33. cheyenne says:

    And after last nights Mile High blowout can anyone say Brocktober?

  34. Common Sense says:

    How a school that calls itself “Christian Hogwarts” is upending a small city in California’s Trump country. Welcome to Bethel….

  35. Common Sense says:

    The driver of the fear around marijuana in the bible belt is based on years of vilified media portrayals and persisting attitudes that assume the law is inherently moral. “A lot of people are concerned with doing the legal thing, rather than the right thing,” says Lydia.

    This Christian Couple find the Healing Benefits of a Natural plant in one of the most Anti States in the Country….

    And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you, it shall be for meat -Genesis 1:29.

  36. Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

    Today in Declineistan:

    A U.S. Senator who has spent his entire adult life serving his country—including more than 5 years in a POW camp—and who probably has terminal brain cancer, while being awarded the Liberty Medal, gives an acceptance speech in which he warns against “half-baked, spurious nationalism.”

    Trump responds by issuing a veiled threat to a dying man: “I’m being very nice. I’m being very, very nice. But at some point I fight back and it won’t be pretty.”

    It’s now reasonable to stop referring to POTUS as a POS. Pieces of shit possess far more dignity, class, and leadership abilities.

  37. Tim says:

    Today in Commifornia: the illegal immigrant who started the deadly Sonoma fire was “well known to law enforcement” but sanctuary laws prevented them from cooperating with the ICE detainer.

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      I hadn’t heard a thing about an arrest relating to the “deadly Sonoma fire,” so I did several searches on various news crawlers and hit several major online news sites, including a few fringy right-wing sites. Nothing—not even on

      Just pulling false factoids out of your posterior vent?

        • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

          Thanks for the link, Tim. If you go to the source story in The Press Democrat (local Santa Rosa paper), you’ll see that the illegal immigrant in question let his campfire get out of control. The fire was small, and a single deputy sheriff put it out. It was subsequently wetted down by the local fire department. The illegal immigrant did not start the “deadly Sonoma fire.”

          Sorry, but I can’t take back hitting “bullshit” horn’s button. Instead, I’m leaning on it for twice as long.

          Also: Breitbart? Yeah, that’s some solid, rational, objective journalism there.

          :::wails of derisive laughter:::

          • Tim says:

            Come on Steve… who starts a “campfire” away from his campsite, wearing a trenchcoat, on an 82 degree afternoon, when there are multiple fires raging nearby?

            Cui bono? 1/3 of California’s registered MJ growers were under evacuation and CA produces half of the US’s mj. And it just so happens a Mexican national with a criminal record was caught starting a fire near a string of other arson fires??

          • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

            Tim — You don’t know when he started the campfire. You assume, because it fits your story, that it started at the same time that it escaped.

            I don’t know what your point is regarding the trench coat—I see homeless people all the time in the dead of Redding’s summer heat who appear to be wearing most of their wardrobe, including winter clothes.

            Are you hypothesizing that he was lighting fires to scare off marijuana growers so that he could steal their crops? That’s a neat trick—a homeless dude without a vehicle, lighting scattered fires over three counties, displacing 1/3 of the state’s registered growers, so that he could swoop in and steal all of their marijuana crop.

            You’re coming off as a kid trying to pound puzzle pieces together that don’t fit with the ball of your hand.

          • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

            So the latest is that the Sheriff of Sonoma County said that illegal immigrant had nothing to do with the huge wildfires.

            “There is a story out there that he’s the arsonist in these fires,” Sheriff Giordano said. “That’s not the case. There’s no indication he’s related to these fires at all. I wanted to kill that speculation right now, so we didn’t have things running too far out of control.”


            Tim? Tim? Tim?

            :::crickets chirping:::

          • Tim says:

            “No indication” other than being caught setting a fire ~1 mile away and claiming to need to warm up in a trenchcoat when it was 82° Even more curious is the fact he was walking away from the spreading fire carrying a lighter and fire extinguisher, yet the fire was supposedly small enough the deputy nearly put it out before fire fighters came.

            Either way, he’s an arsonist caught setting a fire in a populated & high risk area and ICE wants to deport him, but local law enforcement can’t cooperate…

          • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

            Okay, you’re right, Tim. Screw the Sheriff’s dismissal of it as reckless speculation—let’s presume he’s guilty, mostly because he’s one o’ them Messykins.

            Git a rope.

            Man, another pseudo-libertarian who turns out to be an authoritarian when it’s nut-cutting time. I gotta say, I’m usually not surprised at all when our local pseudo-libertarians shed their skins and reveal their true authoritarian selves.

            In your case—no joke—I’m truly disappointed.

          • Tim says:

            I’m a Libertarian, not anarchist. Without rule of law there can be no liberty.

            If you don’t have a problem with a habitual offender with a habit of setting brush fires* wandering the streets despite a valid ICE hold, well, I don’t know what to say.

            *per LA Times

          • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

            Rule of law is one thing. I said *nothing* to suggest he should be wandering the streets, free. He’s in jail, waiting to be prosecuted for setting a fire. The man in charge the local LE department that arrested him has said that there is zero evidence tying him to the larger fires—that the report on Breitbart is pure fabrication.

            It’s another thing to pronounce him guilty of murder based on circumstantial evidence, while twisting the facts in a public forum. That’s the furthest thing from libertarianism. When I was a kid my cousins and I accidentally started a grass fire that burned about two acres. I guess that makes me guilty of setting the Jones Fire.

            You accused him of murder. You cite no real evidence. You’re an authoritarian, not a libertarian.

          • Tim says:

            OK Steve, two issues.

            First, you’re right, I should have tempered my earlier posts by using words like “suspect” and “allegedly.” I take small comfort knowing CNBC also ran with the story. Regardless, I’ve never said and hope I never implied that Jesus wasn’t entitled to a fair trial.

            Second, there was (probably) no excuse for Jesus being on the street Sunday. He is (allegedly) a habitual offender who is (allegedly) here illegally and would (in all likelihood) have been deported (after due process) had this been a non sanctuary state. The (likely) reason he is currently off the street is because he had an existing $100,000 bench warrant from Southern California (the bail for his arson charge was set at just $10,000 which, given California prison overcrowding, would -likely- have put him first in line to get bumped back onto the street).

          • Tim says:

   press release says over the past year Sonoma ignored 4 ICE hold separate requests for Jesus:

          • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

            Tim — I admire your tenacity.

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      Thanks, Erin. But you’re not going to change Tim’s mind. He’s sure Jesus started those fires, and no amount of reasonably unbiased journalism is going to talk him out of it.

      • Tim says:

        Certainly see nothing in the Sac Bee to exonerate him. And I’m pretty sure an arsonist caught setting fires near a string of deadly fires would have made mainstream outlets if the perp had been a citizen.

        But hey, continue to blame PG&E and under-regulation…

        • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

          The Bee story doesn’t exonerate him, so he’s guilty. The small fire in the city park he lives in is miles from the origin of the largest nearby fire—the Nuns Fire burning in the hills between Sonoma and Napa valleys. The other big fires started many tens of miles further away.

          But the Ockham’s razor explanation is that a homeless dude without a car set the fires, because he’s an illegal, and the MSM is covering it up because he’s not a citizen.

          :::eye roll:::

          • Tim says:

            He was caught barely more than 1 mile from the Nuns fire complex, which had at least 5 origins.

          • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

            He was nowhere near that close to the origins of the fire, which started well to then north and was wind-driven southward toward Sonoma. But keep bending the facts to suite your story—you seem to be auditioning for a Breitbart gig, and you’re showing real promise.

        • cheyenne says:

          I just read an AP story where lawsuits are already being filed against PG&E over failing to keep fire safe conditions around their power lines. No mention of a trench coat wearing alien.

  38. Hal Johnson Hal Johnson says:

    Friends should have the courtesy to avoid dying while you’re mad at them.

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      Right? It’s clearly Sen. McCain’s fault that he’ll probably die before Trump simmers down enough to exact a decent form of revenge served cold.

  39. cheyenne says:

    And in Arizona Bannon has endorsed Kelli Ward for senator against Jeff Flake. Ward is the chem-trail advocate who believes Earth is 6,000 years old.

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      In other words: Another crackpot.

      • cheyenne says:

        The more I read about Kelli Ward the more I fear for my grand daughters in Phoenix. Ward started a charter school, that has been deemed a total failure, in the appropriately named town of Snowflake. Can’t make this stuff up.

  40. Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

    “He knew what he was signing up for, but I guess it hurts anyway.” — Trump, to a gold-star widow, allegedly, leaving her in tears.

    Trump says he has proof that it’s “fake news.”

    Let’s see that proof, jackass.

    • Beverly Stafford says:

      If’n he wuz a drinkin’ man, I’d say it’s about 80-100 proof.

    • Gary Tull says:

      This morning a KRVU news report revealed Trump (when calling the widow on route to receive the remains of her husband in a casket after the Niger ambush) referred to Sergeant Johnson as “YOUR GUY (who) knew the risk involved when he signed up,” according to a Florida Congresswoman who was in the car.

    • Gary Tull says:

      Yep, he would have to guess since he apparently knows no empathy. Eugene Robinson of The Washington Post said it best yesterday 10/19 —

      Unlike true leaders, Trump seems to associate humility with weakness. When confronted with an error, big or small, he never just says, “I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I apologize,” and leaves it at that. He always seeks to deflect responsibility. Somebody else is really at fault. Others who came before him have done worse. Bad people in the media are treating him unfairly.

      Trump is a weak, narcissistic man in a job that requires strength and empathy. I’m not sure that empathy is a concept he even understands. He acts as if he believes that feeling someone else’s pain is strictly for losers, not winners.

      No one should expect him to grow in office. He’s 71. At that age, either you have compassion, self-knowledge and a conscience, or you don’t.

  41. K. Beck says:

    I have not been keeping up with ANC recently so I don’t know if this info has been posted. I have an account with Nextdoor, but I have developed an strong aversion for logging in to everything in the world. I read the synopsis they send and go on to something else. I though folks here would be interest in this snippet:

    “Deputy City Manager Greg Clark, City of Redding AGENCY
    Today the City of Redding officially launched a significant step in providing more transparency into its finances and services. It’s called Open Gov and it gives citizens a clear look at how their money is being spent. Simply go to the City’s website and click on the “Transparency Portal” button on the home page.

    Or go directly to .

    You will finds volumes of information at your fingertips in easily readable graphic form. Want to know how much the City spends on overtime? It’s there. What was spent on…Read more
    Oct 18 in General to subscribers of City of Redding…”

    That is all I read. You can check it out yourself on the CoR link.

    • Tim says:

      Jon Lewis did mention OpenGov in his recap of the city council meeting, but it may have been overshadowed by recreational marijuana. Regardless, it is a great link to have and worthy of reposting.

  42. Common Sense says:

    Shasta County Board of Supervisors Votes NO to new tax money and Jobs!

    Like that is a Surprise to anyone….so here is the Question for the Board…What is Your PLAN to Offset the lost Revenues and what is your Plan to Create Jobs that would have been Created by following the Will of the Voters In California with the passing of Prop 64?

    Do you Understand what Voting NO means?…..Look at Siskiyou County….have you heard what’s going up on there??…..That’s what happens with the “not in my backyard attitude”! You Get MORE of what you fighting against….not less……By voting No….there will be NO money from the State to clean up any Illegal Grows…..There will be no state money for extra Officers/Deputies to help enforce your Measure A….

    So we are Waiting….What is your Plan?

  43. Tim says:

    AB 1008, signed into law last week, now makes it illegal in California to ask on a job application if an applicant has ever been convicted of a felony.

    • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

      The phenomenon in the United States of any felony requiring severe and life-long punishment in the form of banishment from polite society is unique to this country among the developed Western world. What do we have to show for it? More crime, high recidivism, and the highest prison incarceration rates in the world. Get convicted of a crime, and you’re a criminal for life, because other opportunities are nil.

      Our desire to exact retribution is overwhelmingly counter-productive, but we carry on with it because Americans believe in Biblical retribution—we don’t care about what actually works.

      Any attempt to mitigate the failings of our penal system freaks out you authoritarians.

      • trek says:

        So I am to assume you have absolutely no use for the death penalty?

        • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

          I’m 95% against the death penalty.

          There are people who do absolutely awful things, and it’s unequivocally true that they did those things, and they don’t deserve to go on wasting any more oxygen. I would pull the plug on some of those people myself, and then go eat lunch. Look up Shasta County’s own Darrell Rich as an example of someone who richly deserved to be boiled in oil. If someone did something horrible to one of my loved ones, I wouldn’t have any problem putting that person down. Some people just need killin’ as they once said way out here in the Wild West.


          I don’t trust the government or juries of “peers” to treat all capital cases the same, or even similarly. I don’t trust the court system to never, or even rarely, convict innocent people. I don’t think that capital punishment is viable when poor people and minorities are far more likely to be condemned to death than rich and white people for similar crimes. The government taking innocent lives as a function of a highly flawed legal system, or systematically punishing poor people far more harshly than rich folks—I see those as some of the worst violations of human rights.

          I spent a week on a Shasta County jury, and it was one of the most horrifying experiences of my life. You don’t want to be charged with a crime in this county and be judged by about half of your mean-ass-fuck-and-dumber-than-dog-shit fellow citizens, believe me. Thank Christ for the jury foreman (a thoughtful and well-spoken church pastor) who was at least able to salvage a hung jury.

          • K. Beck says:

            “I don’t trust the government or juries of “peers” to treat all capital cases the same, or even similarly. I don’t trust the court system to never, or even rarely, convict innocent people.”

            I agree!

            There are way too many cases when the wrong person is convicted of a crime.

            I could never sentence a person to death. Not even Darrell Rich. I believe I do not have the right to kill anyone. If I send someone to the death chamber am I not then a killer myself? I am not a Christian, maybe that has something to do with it. Besides, life in prison, with no chance of parole, is a far worse sentence, seems to me.

            I just say, “OJ Simpson!” When he was rich he was able to hire the best defense attorneys (plural!) known to anyone. He walked away from a murder conviction! IMHO he was guilty! Then, after he had no money left, he stupidly got arrested for stealing a bunch of football memorabilia. No money for high zoot lawyers? Off to jail with you. This about says it all about the criminal “justice” system in the USA.
            Yes it has to do with race, but mostly it has to do with bank accounts.

      • Tim says:

        I’m struggling to grasp your leap to “authoritarian” in regards to advocating having the *freedom* (not requirement) to ask an applicant about his criminal record before offering employment.

        Say I have 2 otherwise equal applicants for a warehouse position that typically pays $12/hr, except one applicant has a history of drug violations and theft. If I must make a conditional offer of employment before running a background check, I’m going to hire the applicant with the clean record (why take on extra risk for no reward?). And so is every other rational employer until they have no other options…

        Now let’s say I’m under previous law. On the application, I ask if the applicant has been convicted of a crime and if so, to explain in a few lines. Since I haven’t extended an offer, I am free to adjust the compensation to match the risk. I offer the felon $11.50 instead of $12, which over the course of a year saves me $1050 in wages, $77 in FICA, and ~$50 in worker’s comp. In return, I take on the extra risk that he’ll be less reliable, steal, or get high on the job & run a forklift into someone or something. He’s happy to have a job and the chance to prove himself (and as the time since his last offense grows, the risk decreases which allows his compensation gap to narrow – e.g. he makes $11.75 year 2 and $12 year 3…).

        That’s if the crime is even something I can work. Maybe I run a daycare and the applicant was convicted of lewd acts with a minor. Under the new law, I waste time and money running a background check, revoking the offer, and documenting the revocation for the EEOC.

        So essentially, the cost of hiring goes up with no increase in productivity and felons are even less likely to find employment. Three cheers for big government…

        • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

          Tim — You’re a reasonably sharp guy, so I think you willfully miss my point. Your blue-sky hypothetical of how things worked under previous law is laughable. Here in the real world, the ex-felon isn’t offered a job—any job at any wage. He has zero hope for the future, and returns to a life of crime.

          Other countries have better success at rehabilitation under their penal systems. Our results speak volumes, but you want to continue penalizing forever all people who commit felonies. It’s a broken system that doesn’t work, and it makes America an increasingly shitty place to live, but in your view the ongoing degeneration of America into a land of insulated “haves” and desperate “have nots” represents freedom.

          Your political orthodoxies are interfering with your ability to think critically. At least K. Beck gets it.

          • Tim says:

            So the choices we make in our youth should not follow us the rest of our lives? I suppose we should remove “education” from applications too?

            You’ll get no quarrel from me that felons should have their full rights restored after release & probation (if you’re not willing to do that, don’t release them). But I think many of these “helpful” laws designed to fix inequality do more harm than good.

            As for racism, here are the 10 states with the worst ratios of black to total unemployment:
            Iowa 411.11%
            Minnesota 371.05%
            New Hampshire 252.94%
            Wisconsin 241.30%
            Connecticut 235.71%
            Maine 229.55%
            Ohio 222.45%
            Massachusetts 216.33%
            Michigan 214.81%
            Kentucky 207.41%

            7 are blue states, 2 are swing, and 1 is red… And the best 10 states? 5 are red, 2 are swing, and 3 are blue…

          • Tim says:

            Here is what gets me: the state government is the California’s largest employer, yet it requires background checks & fingerprinting for every entry level job I checked. Seems to me if the government wants to increase employment for felons, it might start looking at its own hiring practices.

            What it shouldn’t do is shove experimental laws down the throats of the private sector.

        • cheyenne says:

          Tim, Anyone can fill out an application for California public jobs without a background check. Before an applicant can be hired then they have to have a background check done. This is the result of crimes, including murder, that have been committed by employees. About twenty years ago a male substitute custodian in Rio Vista murdered a female student. The man had recently been released from prison and had gang tattoos. Before that many public jobs, especially sub or temp, the background check was just waved in many cases even though they were required. After this Rio Vista murder California cracked down on all agencies and required complete background checks on all employees before they were hired. Without background checks, using an hypothetical situation, which you seem fond of, a teacher who had been convicted of raping a student in New York could move to California and be hired.
          I say this as a public employee who had, and passed, background checks.

      • K. Beck says:

        Stanford U has a comprehensive class on poverty in America called AMERICA’S POVERTY CLASS. Here is the transcript regarding this new law:


        There are currently more than 2 million people incarcerated in this country.
        The United States now has the highest rate of incarceration in the world.
        The problem of mass incarceration directly translates into a problem of prisoner re-entry.
        With over 700,000 individuals being released from prison each year, we’ve got a huge population that is struggling to find work and to reintegrate into society.

        What I wanted to do was to find out how the effect of a criminal record might influence people’s chances of finding a job, and how that process may differ depending on the race of the job applicant.

        We know that ex-offenders have on average poor employment outcomes.
        But we know very little about why.

        Ex-offenders have low levels of schooling.
        They have little or spotty work experience.
        On average, ex-offenders are more likely to have problems with substance abuse and mental illness.
        All of these things can contribute to having trouble finding and keeping a steady job.

        In order to isolate the effect of a criminal record from all of these other associated characteristics, I turned to an experiment.

        Specifically I’m using what’s called an experimental audit study.
        The basic design of an audit involves sending matched pairs of job applicants, who are also referred to as testers, to apply for real job openings in order to see how employers respond to otherwise equally qualified applicants who differ only according to their selected characteristics.
        In this case, according to their race or criminal background.

        I hired a pair of young white men and a pair of young black men.
        For each pair, I randomly assigned one individual in the pair a criminal record.
        What this means is none of the young men in the study who were posing as job applicants actually had criminal records in real life, but for the purposes of these applications, they communicated to employers that they had a felony conviction.
        Most job applications have a question on the application form that asks: Have you ever been convicted of a felony?
        The testers, when applying for these jobs, check the box “Yes, I have been convicted of a felony,” and explained their conviction, that they’d spent 18 months in prison and that they’d just been released in the previous month.

        Then, each week the applicant pair alternated who presented himself as having the criminal record.
        This is important that we were able to randomly assign the criminal record to testers.
        Because if there’s anything about the individual testers that might have made them more or less appealing from one another, we didn’t want that to be confounding the effect of the criminal record.

        We tried to match the testers on every dimension possible that we could think of, but if there was something that we didn’t notice or that we left out, this ability to randomly assign the criminal record meant that each tester served in a criminal record condition for an equal number of cases.

        Looking first at the outcomes for white testers, we see that about 34% of whites with no criminal record received a callback or job offer, compared to just 17% of whites with a criminal record.
        So we see that a criminal record reduces employment opportunities by about 50%.

        In the case of black testers, 14% of those with no criminal background received a call back or job offer, relative to just 5% of blacks with a criminal record.

        When we compare the outcomes of black and white testers side-by-side, what’s most striking is the direct effect of race on the outcomes of these young men.
        A black applicant with no criminal background received callbacks or job offers at about half the rate as an equally qualified white applicant.
        The most surprising finding was really related to blacks with no criminal background relative to whites with a felony conviction.
        We find that a white applicant with a felony conviction fared just as well, if not better, relative to a black applicant with a clean record.
        This suggests the being black in America today is essentially like having a felony conviction in terms of one’s chances of finding employment.

        The massive expansion in the criminal justice system has not affected all groups equally.
        Today’s system of incarceration is characterized by large racial disparities.
        About 12% of young black men are incarcerated at any given time, compared to less than 2% of young white men.
        About one in three young black men will spend time in prison at some point during his lifetime.
        For young black male high school dropouts, that figure is close to 60%.

        Incarceration is becoming an increasingly common event in the life course trajectory of young, disadvantaged men.
        These results point to the incredibly large and lingering effects of direct racial discrimination in this country.
        And point to the criminal justice system as an important mechanism of stratification among young black men today.

        The United States has engaged in this grand experiment with the buildup of mass incarceration, but very little thought went into what happens when these people come out.
        We know that finding quality, steady employment is the number one predictor of whether or not an individual returns to prison after having been released.
        If we want to keep these individuals crime free, if we want to keep them from returning to prison,
        helping ex-offenders find employment is the number one priority.

        One thing we could do is to ban the box.
        That essentially means removing the question from application forms that asks applicants about their criminal record.
        This allows job applicants to make a personal impression on employers before being judged on the basis of their criminal record.
        In my study, the testers who had a chance to talk to employers and get to know them before revealing their criminal record had much better employment outcomes.
        Employers had a chance to get to know them based on their qualifications before ruling them out on the basis of that single characteristic.

        If we care about poverty and racial inequality, we need to think about the criminal justice system and the large numbers of young men being released into communities bearing the mark of a criminal record.

        We need to find these young men jobs.

        The contributor of this section:

        Devah Pager is a Professor of Sociology at Harvard University and a Professor of Public Policy at the Harvard Kennedy School.  Her research focuses on institutions affecting racial stratification, including education, labor markets, and the criminal justice system.  Pager’s recent research has involved a series of field experiments studying discrimination against minorities and ex-offenders in the low-wage labor market. Her book, Marked: Race, Crime, and Finding Work in an Era of Mass Incarceration (University of Chicago, 2007), investigates the racial and economic consequences of large scale imprisonment for contemporary U.S. labor markets. Pager holds Masters Degrees from Stanford University and the University of Cape Town, and a Ph.D. from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

        Check here:
        to find out when it is offered again. It is online and free. You can rent the book from Amazon. Highly recommended

        • cheyenne says:

          When applying for a job they already have eliminated race and age from the application. Removing the felony conviction box should be done. Nobody hires a person based on the application. The only thing on the application should be skills and experience for the interviewer to decide who to interview. The interview will reveal the other items of concern if any.

  44. Common Sense says:

    Only a couple bare threads left on the Last Remaining Nut on the Steering Wheel of the Trump Train……the Collateral Damage will be very widespread once Mueller is done…. To think how good of an artist he has been to Dupe 40% of the adult voters….a classic!

    His Veteran Buddy giving Kuddos….FAKE…..his Painting…..FAKE……His Presidency….

  45. Common Sense says:

    While contemplating and thinking about and wondering if they would allow it….Redding Misses the boat on Cannabis. Shasta Lake City is going to get the Lions Share of the Manufacturing now!

    Snooze….you lose! This Delayed Reaction will Cost the City of Redding Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars in Tax Revenues per year…perhaps more!

    It’s like the little old lady that has been single her whole life…..just waiting for the perfect man!

    Stillwater Park would have been an excellent location to fill in with Cannabis Manufacturing…..but the “Best Fit” Attitude will now Cost Dearly!

    Hats off to SLC for embracing…..and Recognizing the benefits of saying Yes…..the Early YES gets the money…..and Jobs….and Grants and…..

  46. K. Beck says:

    A quick shout out to Redding Fire Dept.: THANKS for quickly and efficiently putting out that house fire in my little neighborhood last night! And dealing with the neighborhood looks-loos, politely answering all our questions. And rescuing the two dogs trapped inside the house, I rarely see such compassion.

    Also, THANKS to Haven Humane for picking up the two dogs and keeping them until the resident returns.

    SEE, there are some good things happening in Redding. I am just glad it was not MY house no matter how efficient the FD is!


  47. Common Sense says:

    Lutheran Church Decides That the Best Way to Retain Members Is to Stop Preaching the Gospel.

  48. Common Sense says:

    Sen John McCain sends one over the Bow of the Trump Boat….Wouldn’t be Ironic if McCain Starts the Process for Impeachment! When death is just around the corner….the REAL Senator stands Tall!…No more Partisan Politics with this War Hero….Just the Truth!

  49. Common Sense says:

    So who is next in Line After Trump is gone? After Pence is gone? Pence Knew all along about Flynn…..if the Dem’s sweep in the Midterms….Will Pelosi be next in line?

  50. Common Sense says:

    Republican Senator John McCain…..there is a Hero here…..Seeking to do what is right over Partisan Politics! Now if some of the others would do what is right… can hope!

  51. cheyenne says:

    Fun fact, maybe not so fun in Redding. Redding’s city manager Barry Tippin makes more than every governor in the nation including California.

    • Tim says:

      Story checks out.

      Barry Tippin: $210,000 base salary

      Highest paid governor:
      Tom Wolf (PA) $191k

      Jerry Brown $183k

      Lowest paid governor:
      Paul LePage (ME) $70k

      • Gary Tull says:

        Good point. In terms of comparison, it seems pretty obvious a Redding city manager should draw less than half of that.

      • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

        Elected officials and career bureaucrats are apples and oranges. It’s more telling to compare Tippin’s salary to those of other city managers, or even corporate CEOs who run like-sized organizations on a day-to-day basis. But for that kind of dinero, we have a right to expect top-shelf results. Mike Warren in many ways changed the livability of Redding—it is without question a more attractive place to woo people and companies, notwithstanding the Stillwater boondoggle. Tippen will be judged by how well he uses those improvements to woo, getting the City’s financials in order, and how effective he is at dealing with the homelessness/petty crime issue. Dude’s got a lot on his plate.

        The highest-paid state government employee is usually the public university’s football or basketball coach. There are only about 10 states where that’s not the case. UC Berkeley’s football coach makes more money than the brain surgeons at UC’s medical schools, and he’s hugely underpaid relative to most competitive Division 1 programs (about 1/3 the salary of Stanford’s head coach). Don’t bother being outraged—universities aren’t likely to stop making their sports programs a priority.

    • cheyenne says:

      Here in Cheyenne they discussed having a city manager and decided against it. The mayor and city council manage it with input from the various department heads who know first hand what is needed. Are there conflicts? Yes. But I could make a good argument that Cheyenne has a lot more to manage than Redding. Does Redding really need a city manager at all?

  52. cheyenne says:

    In Arizona Jeff Flake’s announcement to retire will put a Democrat in the Senate. The leading Republican candidate, supported by Trump and Bannon, is Kelly Ward. She is an advocate for chem trails and that the Earth is only 6,000 years old. She was soundly trounced in her last senate bid by a past his prime McCain who barely beat his Democrat opponent. We don’t have to worry about Wyoming’s senator Barroso because Trump and Bannon are promoting his opponent, another Kelli Ward clone. At this rate Trump and Bannon will change the face of politics more to the center. They won’t like that. Is the hat Dougie seeking Trump and Bannon approval?

    • Common Sense says:

      Good to see a couple Republican Senators Speaking the Truth right now and calling it the way it is! Amazing what not needing to be re-elected does for one’s Truth Meter! The Trump Train is just about out of steam….the wheel is just about off…..Indictments just around the corner….starting with the Underlings….

  53. Robert Goulet says:

    Anybody have any thoughts about this: situation? I am so torn…on one hand I cant stand Lamalfa but on the other hand even Lamalfa doesnt deserve to put up with a little neck-beard like that. Maybe R.V. could interview the family.

    • Tim says:

      Makes for a nice headline for a family of Democrat activists coming into an election year, but when you read the details it is pretty clear they were harassing the Congressman (at times sending multiple calls & letters per day) and that they are still free to communicate as long as it is via mail through the DC office (where Capitol Police can document & screen).

      • Robert Goulet says:

        Mmmmm-kay… thats the far right viewpoint as evinced by your inability to spell out the word democratic I was kinda hoping for a little deeper analysis.. I already read your viewpoint in the fishwrap. Bueller?

        • Tim says:

          Democrat: noun, a member of the Democratic Party
          source: Merriam Webster

          • Robert Goulet says:

            Oh pardon me, I mistook your inability to conjugate/appropriately construct a sentence in English for hostility to the Democratic party…my bad.

          • Tim says:

            ad hominem
            Latin for “to the person” — attacking a person rather than rebutting a position or argument.

            Trivia: While today’s usage almost always refers to a personal attack, the original expression meant an appeal to the body (emotions) rather than the mind (logic/reason).

            PS: You are, of course, correct that sentence was misconstructed – “Democrat activists” should have been “activist Democrats.”

          • Robert Goulet says:

            cannot reply to the below but Tim that was not an attack on you. I t was an apology for how i misread your previous comment as to the part about inability sorry if you took that as an attack but i assumed that if you COULD appropriately construct a sentence you WOULD have. As to the Democrat vs Democratic have you ever heard a good explanation for why the extreme right wing tends to do that? Just curious.

      • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

        They are free to communicate with the local staff regardless of the cease-and-desist letter. That letter should have been written by LaMalfa’s attorney, not the Capitol Police. And if it’s to set the table for a civil lawsuit, let’s see if LaMalfa’s staff can sell damages to a jury.


        It shouldn’t be too hard to convince a Shasta County jury that a 13-year-old punk-@$$ kid—with his progressive family’s questionable encouragement—has instilled deep, hurtful psychological trauma on LaMalfa’s local staff of wilting lilies and fainting goats.

    • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

      I think the kid is obnoxious AF.

      I also think, if you read the mission statement of the Capitol Coppers, that they had no business writing that letter, and that it carries zero legal heft—unless there was a direct threat on LaMalfa or his Capitol staffers, the issue is out of their jurisdiction.

      Lastly and mostly, I think LaMalfa and his staff need to grow thicker skins. They’re letting a 13-year-old troll them to the point where their response become news? Weaksauce.

      • cheyenne says:

        A Republican Colorado state legislator was making a self promo of a talk with boy scouts on video. An 11 year old scout asked her pointed questions about gun control and was quieted. After, the 11 year old scout was expelled from the scout group. What it boiled down to, confirmed by Facebook investigation, was the scout leader was a right wing leaner who invited a right wing politician and the scout’s parent was a left leaner who chose to use her son to promote her ideals. Just another kids group ruined by adults.

      • Robert Goulet says:

        Interesting, That was my initial take on it as well and the more i think about it the more apparent it becomes that BOTH sides are wrong. The question i keep asking myself is what would be an equitable resolution to the situation? About the only thing that i can come up with is Lamalfas office needs to make rules about contacting the office for everyone and then enforce them up to the point of getting a restraining order if necessary.

  54. Common Sense says:

    Pastor Gabe Hughes sends one over the Bow of the Bethel Boat! This Kansas Preacher is calling it the way that he sees it!

  55. Tim says:

    And in today’s dose of ever-eroding California freedoms, a farrier school finds itself in hot water for teaching dropouts to shoe horses (violating a 2010 law prohibiting trade schools from accepting students who lack a high school diploma or GED):

    • cheyenne says:

      The law was enacted to prevent abuse by vocational schools that took advantage of students by promising unrealistic employment promises to graduates. Many times charging more for the same course taught cheaper at a community college. Is the California law adding needed adjustments? The California farrier school charges $4500 for it’s course. The farrier school here in Cheyenne charges $3500 for it’s course which includes housing and food during the eight week course.

      • Tim says:

        Makes you wonder why they don’t hold public colleges to the same standard of ensuring adequate employment prospects, especially when the later uses taxpayer-backed grants & loans.

        • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

          The law seems to be silent on the issue of employment prospects—it sets a standard for minimum qualifications to attend.

          From the article you linked: “Just like publishing a how-to book or uploading an instructional video to YouTube is protected by the First Amendment, so is teaching,” said Keith Diggs, an attorney for IJ, in a statement. “By limiting who Bob is allowed to teach and what Esteban is allowed to learn, California has not only harmed the students most in need of an education, but also violated their First Amendment rights.”

          So if a local school district wants to hire me as a teacher, I don’t need a teaching credential? Cool.

          Also, I don’t want any limitations on what Esteban is allowed to learn. (That’s my Spanish name.)

          • Tim says:

            If you, the school, the parents, and the students are satisfied with your ability to teach the subject matter, who cares? The credentialing system seems to do a much better job of protecting the teacher’s union than cultivating great teachers.

            Not qualified to teach in California:
            Bill Gates
            Steve Jobs
            Mark Zuckerberg
            Elon Musk
            Wolfgang Puck
            Gordon Ramsey
            John Mackey
            Ted Turner
            Maya Angelo

            States like Kansas & Iowa have baccalaureate waivers for teachers with specific expertise. Their average salary is nearly half that of California, as is their pupil:teacher ratio. And students there score higher on standardized tests…

          • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

            Thanks, Captain Obvious. 😉 Yeah, I realize that California State Law requires that public schoolteachers have teaching credentials, which obviously excludes from the hiring pool a lot of famous people. Of course, probably none of the people you listed have any desire to become public school teachers. The law exists primarily to establish a minimum standard. Clearly, districts should be able to make exceptions, but here in Shastanistan? Allowing for exceptions would probably just result in twisted cronyism. (Our smokin’ hot babysitter Jessica Lubsjeebus would make an okay teacher, and would probably sleep with me if I hooked her up.)

            I’m not famous, but I have a Ph.D. in biology, lectured at UC Davis for a couple of years, and have a 25-year career as a wildlife biologist and environmental scientist. I’m qualified to teach biology. My wife is a school administrator. I think it’s unlikely that IJ would defend her school district if she decided to hire me as a biology teacher under the legal theory presented in the article. But maybe they would. Some organizations exist primarily for the purpose of tilting at windmills.

            (Actually, I believe California law allows a school district to hire me and all of the famous people on your list, but only on the contingency that we get our teaching credentials in an allotted period of time.)

            States like Kansas and Iowa beat us on standardized tests. How do they rank as hubs of economic vitality and innovation? Bottom of the barrel. Hey Kansas, get your broke-ass Reagan Revolution on steroids WWJD model of failed governance out of my face. Not interested.

          • Tim says:

            Steve, all those “famous people” are drop-outs so they would need ~5 years of Education to obtain a California teaching credential, despite knowing more about their respective subjects than the best professors.

            Dan Goldhaber did a study in 2006 which analyzed test improvements for grades 3-8 from teacher credentialing and class size reduction. He found that reducing class size was 3.5 times more effective, on a dollar expenditure basis, than having credentialed teachers. Which makes sense to me – do you really need to understand Laplace transforms to teach fractions to 3rd graders?

            And you might be surprised by Iowa — it is rapidly become a technology hub (thanks to cheap electricity, server farms are replacing corn)

          • cheyenne says:

            Steve and Tim.
            Steve you are right that California, also other states can hire not just teachers but administrators without certificates on the contingency of obtaining those certificates within an allotted time, I saw it happen at Redding high schools that I worked at. I also saw those who didn’t get those certificates fired. I have seen some of those fired, not just in California, sue the district because they said they weren’t allowed time to get those certificates.
            And Denver is becoming the agriculture tech center because, as the new ag tech firms moving there state, Colorado has a long history in agriculture and a growing tech field. Also having a lot of California investors ready to invest might help. Also Colorado, one could argue, is light years ahead of the other states on marijuana and hemp cultivation.

      • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

        The trade school/student loan scene is a horrific cesspool, but I fail to see how the GED requirement is anything resembling a fix. Unless significant numbers of those affected are motivated by the law to go get their GEDs, at best the law disqualifies a certain fraction of chumps from being chumped. Why not just go directly at the trade schools?

  56. common sense says:

    Anyone with any Critical Thinking Skills will understand what is going on Politically right now….this is Not about Obama….It’s Not about Hillary…..It’s not About Uranium or any other fabricated story….it’s about the Illegitimate President we have….#45.

    The Republicans are so desperate to keep #45 going for at least another week or two, to slam the tax cuts for the rich donors through, that they will follow any scent that it’s “Something” Else or Someone else to blame! Well….It’s Weekend at Bernies #2!

    Today’s Keyword…. C-O-L-L-U-S-I-O-N……

    Indictments are coming very soon……

  57. Common Sense says:

    Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley Having Dinner with a Russian member of Parliament at the National Prayer Breakfast in February.

    Nothing here to see…..just another ” Nothing Burger”…….yep…..

  58. Common Sense says:

    Remember that Stock tip I gave you 3 months ago on Amazon?….Jeff Bezos……now the Richest Man in the World! Amazon is changing the landscape and will continue to….

  59. Common Sense says:

    Let the Games Begin!…First Charges filed by Mueller! The Flipping should look something like the Salmon heading toward the Fish Hatchery….. I am putting a $50.00 on at least Half the Administration having some serious issues!

    It’s not about Hillary…..It’s not about Obama….It’s not about Uranium……it’s about Crimes of the highest kind against our Country! It’s about Collusion and Potentially TREASON! Obstruction of Justice….a Given!…..Financial Crimes….a Given!…..

    History….in the making….right before your eyes!

    You can’t pardon your way out of this my friend….you can distract enough about all that OUT THERE
    ( to try and deflect)……but in the end…the Critical Thinkers saw it All………

  60. cheyenne says:

    And in White Conservative right wing Arizona out in Sun City where all the White Conservative right wingers retire from other states, All Greens, not to be mistaking for the one with the big W, has opened the first drive through medical marijuana outlet. They said their customers are older, no surprise there, and now those customers can wheel their golf cart through the drive through on their way to the golf course. The first customer was an Army veteran who uses MMJ for PTSD.

  61. Gary Tull says:

    When a machine is running this badly, something has to blow.

    Thank you, Robert Mueller.

  62. Common Sense says:

    Cheyenne, I am just trying to help you to start processing your denial sooner rather than later….there is but one thread left on the front wheel of the T -Train…..and it is about to come off! Whether they are booked and released or held in Jail on Mon/Tues/Weds…hard to tell….but there should be at least one coming very soon to start the whole Indictment process and the Avalanche heading downhill……

    Don’t let any facts get in the way of any of your beliefs….

  63. Tim says:

    There sure have been a lot of “drug deals gone bad” this year. I wonder if the robbery & murder rate will go down once folks can buy recreational mj over the counter next year…

  64. Tim says:

    Ex CEO of NPR discusses media bias after a year embedded with conservatives:

  65. Beverly Stafford says:

    I’ve never noticed pop-up ads on A News Cafe until recently. Is it just my computer, or are they being allowed for monetary reasons? Just now, the ad was from Amazon.

  66. Common Sense says:

    And the Avalanche starts!….. 12 Count Indictment Hits Manafort…..more to come in the near future…’s all unraveling and History is in the Making!

  67. Common Sense says:

    Turn that Fox News off…..get the Ketchup out for that Nothing Burger!…’s going to get REAL now!

    • cheyenne says:

      So CS in your world someone is guilty until proven innocent. I don’t read your links because they are nothing more than front page news from all media that I have already read. Plagiarism is illegal or should be. Why don’t you do a little research like Tim does.
      Tick, Tick, Tick. Let me know when they go to jail like you predicted.

      • Common Sense says:

        Hahahah……I know… will take you awhile to process it all……you are in good company
        ( half the country thinks it’s all Hillary or Obama’s fault…LOL )….and the actual jail part…..that is down the road…..we have just Started the Process…..My money is on convictions with Mueller’s record! Just another great big nothing burger as R.V would say…..yep…..time will tell now won’t it?

      • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

        One of the three facing charges—Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos—already pleaded guilty to lying about his contacts with Russians.

  68. cheyenne says:

    I know the #45 haters pick and chose as I read in those same media sources they cite how businesses from Warren Buffett down to small ones like the Massachusetts pet chain owner like Trump’s proposed business changes.
    And Trump’s stand on immigrants is showing fruit as the Swift plant in Grand Island, after ICE raided those poor illegals who did work Americans didn’t want, are now having to pay decent wages to Americans including legal immigrants.
    Many claim the trickle down economics doesn’t work but neither has the trickle up economics as the wealth gap is the widest it has ever been.
    And even Trump’s hateful boasts have generated a rising tide of women who have had enough from male domination. Those women, if the #45 haters would read the media, are entering politics and the business world with new found confidence because of the backlash created by Trump’s boasts.
    A new world is coming because, like him or not, he has changed the landscape of an America that needed a change. He has made America great again, just not the way he envisioned.

    • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

      The wealth gap is as wide as it’s ever been because we are still deeply mired in the era of the Reagan Revolution, which started the gaps escalation. It grows wider year-after-year. If Trump gets his way with tax reform, the wealth gap will go on steroids. Whatever trivial tax breaks you and I receive will be eaten up by increased fees, like the proposal by the Trump administration to raise the entry fee into National Parks to $70, and many more.

      As for the Liar-in-Chief? He says his tax plan is “Not good for me, believe me.”

      Trump’s plan calls for reducing the number of tax brackets from seven to three, lowers the top rate from 39.6 percent to 35 percent, while repealing the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax, both of which are paid almost entirely by the wealthy. The only way it could be not good for him is if he already pays zero federal taxes.

      I don’t think Trump has the faintest clue how to be honest. Even when his lies are painfully obvious to the point of being stupid, he can’t help himself. It’s an impulse.

      • cheyenne says:

        The Democrats have had over thirty years to change the Reagan Revolution and have done nothing but keep giving away money to the poor in a failed trickle down theory. And my lifetime NPS pass cost me $10.00 in 2000 when a yearly pass cost $20.00. Ever hear of inflation?
        And here in Wyoming my local paper said that Trump’s health plan will actually lower costs to the poor.
        And the top tax rate is one of the highest in the world and that has led to many companies, some financed by Obama’s financial adviser Warren Buffet, to move their headquarters to more favorable tax countries. Just like some California companies have moved to more tax friendly states.
        The Democrats can’t keep taxing and imposing restrictions on businesses and not expect negative feed back. That negative feed back is President Trump. He is my president, for good or bad, and I will not take a knee and wail “Woe is me”.

        • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

          “Giving away money” is the opposite of trickle-down theory. Trickle-down theory is the theory that if you make conditions such that the wealthy get wealthier, some of that money will trickle down to the masses. None of it is “confiscated” by taxation and given away.

          Instead, what has happened since the advent of the Reagan Revolution is that a small percentage of Americans have hoarded more than 50% of the nation’s wealth (still the most wealth on the planet), and their share is growing. Meanwhile, the middle and working classes have declined, both in size and share of the nation’s wealth. It’s a positive feedback loop that may be irreversible—until the whole thing comes crashing down.

          As for the Democrats undoing the Reagan Revolution, various political strategies—the most potent of which are gerrymandering and polarizing of information outlets—have created conditions where it’s virtually impossible for either side to get anything done (or undone). For every enlightened and intellectually curious conservative like you, Cheyenne, there are 99 who only encounter what’s said in echo chambers. Studies show that conservatives are quite a bit more self-insulating when it comes to seeking out challenges to their existing beliefs, but most people on both sides of the political spectrum mostly want affirmations. “Oooh, me too! That’s what I think, too!”

          • cheyenne says:

            Steve, I fully agree that the trickle down theory doesn’t work. But the Democrats say that giving, granting or what ever you want to call it to the poor will raise all boats. I call that the trickle up theory and it is as big a lie as the trickle down theory. For proof where do the poor spend that extra money? At Walmart jncreasing the wealth of the richest family in the world.
            A long time ago, I don’t know who said it but they said if you gave all the money to the poor the rich would have it back within a year. That is not politics, that is bad choices.

          • Tim says:

            $0.75 out of every $1 WalMart earns goes to producers and distributors of products. $0.20 goes to employees. $0.02 goes to income taxes (this doesn’t include sales tax, which is taken before walmart earns the $1). The remaining $0.03 profit is split among shareholders (and the Walton heirs own about half the shares).

            So, if anything, spending money at Walmart distributes money across a more diverse pool of people than your average business.

            As for income inequality, the arguments against it always seem based on jealousy and emotion rather than reason. There has always been income inequality, and it has been much worse at various points in history.

            Only 32 people remained on the Forbes 400 after 30 years, despite needing to maintain a modest 4% growth rate to stay (it is much harder to earn a good rate of return on $90 billion than $90,000). 90% of inherited wealth is gone in 3 generations. 80% of millionaires are the first in their family to reach that mark.

            And America’s poor are far wealthier than ever. They have better education, healthcare, infrastructure, information, protection of rights, etc than ever before. But the yardstick with which we measure poverty keeps changing, especially when society keeps providing more and more necessities for free.

          • cheyenne says:

            Tim, you are very true about Walmart. Liberals hate Walmart but they are the largest private employer in most states, my son drives for a Walmart distribution center in Phoenix. He makes good money and has a good health plan.
            And how do you measure poverty. I measure totally stupid as someone who buys a pack of cigarettes for $5 and say they can’t afford their medication. Being rich or poor comes down to personal choices and not those who whine they never had a chance. For every story about someone born with a silver spoon failing there are just as many stories about those who lifted themselves out of poverty to succeed.

          • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

            Tim — Of that $0.75 per buck that goes to producers, I wonder how much goes overseas?

          • Tim says:

            A good question, but I don’t think the answer differs significantly between walmart and its various competitors.

            Clothes, bikes, electronics, dog treats, housewares, hardware, etc — most of it comes from Asia no matter where you shop…

          • Tim says:

            Cheyenne: I define someone as impoverished if they have any insecurity regarding food, clothing, & shelter for the next six months.

            By my definition, many humble LDS-types with their 1 year stash are wealthy, while many folks with 6 figure incomes and tons of toys living paycheck to paycheck are really living in poverty. But I’m weird like that…

      • Common Sense says:

        Agreed Steven!….If you mean is he a great Liar….YES…perhaps one of the best…’s part of his Pathology….Has he made American Great Again? Oh my….if you call being a Racist and a Pathological Liar and grabbing P Great….count me out!

        The folks Doubling down right now can’t see the forest from the trees!

        This Entire Administration is going down the tubes….like it or not…..

        And for any Christians that Voted for him, let us remember….

        Jesus was a Homeless Palestinian anarchist, who held protests at oppressive temples, advocated for universal health care and the poor and a redistribution of Wealth.All this before being Tortured and Executed for crimes against the State.

        So now….go ahead and tell me why he or anyone that follows him would Vote Conservative?

        I am waiting……

        Talk about Hypocrisy!

  69. Common Sense says:

    Trump’s tax plan benefits the 1%, hurts the poor and middle-class, and explodes the deficit, according to Trump’s own alma mater, -Wharton School of Business

    So about that Swamp Draining…..and the Tax Returns and…..

  70. Tim says:

    October 2, 2017
    Democrats: We demand gun control now!
    Republicans: Shame on you for politicizing a tragedy!

    November 1, 2017
    Republicans: We demand an end to diversity visas!
    Democrats: Shame on you for politicizing a tragedy!

    Maybe it is time we demand more? Of the 540 members of Congress, only 2 are independent (and 1 of those is a non-voting delegate). Of the 9 Supreme Court justices, none are independent. And of the 25 main members of the executive branch, just 3 are independent.

    5 out of the 574 federal representatives — less than 1% — are independent, despite the fact 45% of the US identifies as neither Democrat or Republican. Talk about a lack of diversity!

    • Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

      Let me fantasize about being appointed God-Czar in charge of fixing our political nightmare.

      My first moves:

      1. Eliminate gerrymandering and immediately redrawing congressional and state office boundaries everywhere in this country so as to promote the chances of moderates and independents.

      2. New regulations mandating that all licensed TV and radio news media be objective and in the public interest, with opinion pieces being limited to 5 minutes every two hours. Licensing death sentence for disseminating misinformation.

      3. Eliminate the electoral college. Dated, anti-democratic, and dumb.

      4. Give the states 100% control of regulating such divisive issues as guns and abortion. You don’t like your state’s regulations? Move.

      • cheyenne says:

        Steve, I appoint you Czar as you make good points. Except for eliminating the Electoral College because I am in the least populous state but I see your reason as you are in the most populous state.

      • Tim says:

        You’re against the electoral college for being “undemocratic,” but weren’t you relieved when Trumpcare was defeated thanks to Alaska’s undemocratic overrepresentation in the Senate?

        The electoral college is a brilliant compromise just like having two chambers of Congress with separate power bases. Sure the electoral college could be improved (ending “winner take all” ranks top of my list), but it balances the needs of rural & urban when deciding who leads the executive branch (who then appoints the judicial branch).

        • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

          The notion that rural people deserve overrepresentation strikes me as a peculiar argument that only people from rural areas would find rational. As for Senate representation being undemocratic, I’m okay with guaranteeing the States certain rights, including equal representation in one house of Congress. I just don’t think the loser of the popular vote should be President.

          We have worse problems with elections—gerrymandering being at the top of the list. The SCOTUS just heard arguments on that issue, and came off as a pack of morons. Confronted by a simple algorithm for drawing non-partisan districts:

          “Aarrrrrggh! Math—it’s too hard! This is all gobbledygook! My brain hurts!”

          • Tim says:


            The 100 most populus counties represent nearly half of the US’s population, but less than 5% of the land area. That would be who decides the presidency (and judiciary) under direct democracy.

            Being hubs of illegal immigration, metro areas actually are over-represented because illegals count for the census, but can’t vote. They actually give Southern California 6 extra seats in the house (seats taken from rural states). This is the reason the Democratic party machine loves sanctuary cities but doesn’t actually push for real immigration reform.

          • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

            It’s not clear to me that urban hubs are overrepresented owing to illegals.

            California’s illegal population comprises about 8% of the state’s population.

            The counties with populations comprising >10% illegals are Monterey/San Benito (13.5%), Imperial (12.8%), Napa (12%), and Santa Clara (10.2%). Those are mostly counties with labor-intensive ag industries, with the exception of Santa Clara (where I assume everyone has their own illegal housemaid).

            The Central Valley agricultural counties are mostly 7-9% illegals.

            Counties with the big cities? Orange (9.6%), Los Angeles (9.3%), San Bernardino (7.5%), Riverside (7.0%), San Diego (6.6%), Sacramento (4.6%), San Francisco (3.5%).

            Shasta County has the lowest percentage of illegals in the state, at 0.6%. I presume that has much to do with undocumented workers gravitating to counties where there’s opportunity for work. Also less than 1.5% illegals are Del Norte, Siskiyou, Modoc, Lassen, Amador, Calaveras, Tuolomne, Mariposa, Alpine, Mono, and Inyo counties.


          • Tim says:

            10% of 10 million (LA county) or 3 million (Orange county) skews state & federal representation far more than 13% of 165,000 (Imperial).

            But don’t take my word for it:

          • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

            I still don’t follow you, Tim. Yes, there are more illegals in L.A. But there are also more legal citizens—the representation is proportional to the overall population of metro and rural counties. Any county with close to the state average isn’t really being over- or under-represented. Also, since the states draw congressional districts however they want, gerrymandering surely has more to do with who gets screwed than percent illegals.

            As for CA having an unfair number of representatives relative to rural states with few illegals……yeah. But hyper-conservative Texas has a slightly larger illegal population by percent than California (according to Pew).

            I do find it odd that the Constitution uses gross census numbers (minus Indians) instead of citizens to determine representation……but strict Constitutional constructionists can’t have it both ways. Speaking of their affinity for the original intent of the Founders as laid out in the Constitution, is there anything more vile in federal law than the three-fifths compromise?

          • Tim says:

            “Any county with close to the state average isn’t really being over- or under-represented.”

            But that’s just it, illegal immigrants are not dispersed evenly across California. The State of Jefferson has few illegal immigrants, which makes LA/OC’s 2 extra/unearned congressional seats worth double the representation of Butte, Lassen, Modoc, Plumas, Shasta, Sierra, Siskiyou, & Tehama combined.

            Not only are illegal immigrants unevenly dispersed across California, they are not uniformly dispersed across the US: over 60% of them are in 20 metropolitan areas. Rural & inland areas are the losers.

            Yes, Texas and Arizona also gain representation, but again — what parts of Texas and Arizona? The urban parts, which are more Democratic than the state average.

            As for the 3/5 compromise, it looks pretty ugly through today’s morality. But today’s morality will look equally ugly in 250 years (how many Americans care today about the 14 million slaves in India and 8 million slaves in Africa?).

  71. Steven Towers Steven Towers says:

    My knee-jerk reaction to Trump’s Press Sect. Sarah Huckabee calling WH reporter April Ryan’s question about anyone in the WH supporting slavery “disgusting and absurd” was: Yeah, that question is over the line.

    That’s before I read the context. Ryan’s question was in reference to Trump’s Chief of Staff John Kelly stating that the Civil War happened because of a “lack of compromise.”

    All compromises that were on the table when the South fired on Ft. Sumter involved the South retaining slavery. So if you suggest that the war could have been avoided if a compromise had been accepted…….it seems like a fair question.

    • Tim says:

      To say slavery was the cause of the Civil War is to oversimplify to the point of being wrong. But it makes for a simple “good vs evil” narrative to tell kids, and most kids grow into adults without looking too deeply at the matter.

      The truth is the North and South were fighting for different reasons. This is often the case in war, because if you can get two parties to agree over what they fighting about, they stand a good chance of actually compromising. The North was NOT fighting for slavery, or to end slavery. It was fighting to preserve the Union. Period. Slavery wouldn’t end in the US for another 4 years (the Emancipation Proclamation, 2 years into the war, covered only the states in rebellion).

      The South was fighting for the right to secede. It was offered, and declined, a compromise that would have altered the Constitution to preserve slavery in the Southern States. But the South was really fighting over power and representation. Ever since the 3/5 compromise in the Constitution, the South basically had equal power to the North. But if all new states were culturally like Northern states (and “free” state was a litmus test for way of life), the South would gradually lose power that was already in decline due to immigration. That is why the South choose to secede rather than accept Constitutional protection for slavery.

      As for Fort Sumter, the real story is pretty interesting. A typical government boondoggle, it had been under construction for decades and was massively over budget. When Lincoln was elected, only 1 soldier was actually stationed there. There were a couple other nearby forts, but they were not meant to defend against land-based attack so when the new year came and secession seemed inevitable, the Union commander took it upon himself to move all the troops to Fort Sumter — without Lincoln’s permission and much to Lincoln’s frustration.

      To the southerners, this appeared to be a military build-up and it drew outrage. The siege began and lasted months. Jefferson Davis gave explicit orders not to fire on Sumter unless fired upon first, but gave the OK to fire on any ships attempting to resupply it.

      In April, supplies at Sumter became critical and the Union sent armed provisions out of New York. The New York newspapers reported from the docks and included supplies and troop counts. These newspaper reports beat the ships to the South. Anyway, the Union commander at Fort Sumter, unaware of the resupply effort, was attempting to negotiate a surrender and basically said “look, we have 3 days of food left, if we haven’t been resupplied by then I will surrender.” The Confederate commander, having access to local newspapers with wire reports of the inbound ships, was outraged and refused those terms. When the supply ships reached the outer harbor, he fired upon Sumter (not the ships), contrary to Jefferson Davis’s order. The war really began against the wishes of both leaders.

      • K. Beck says:

        When I was in Boston in 2006 I took a walking tour of the city. It was led by a high school history teacher. His bottom line was this: Lincoln would do pretty much anything he could to keep the Union together. Why? Cotton. That was the major money making “industry” in the US at the time. Cotton was grown in the South, but transported to the North for processing into fabric which was a major industry in the US. He said to think of Cotton as the Oil of the mid-1800s. If the South split from the Union they could then charge whatever price they wanted for their cotton, and sell it to Europe directly. Lincoln really did not care about slavery, but he needed the anti-slavery folks in the North to keep the war going. Frankly, this makes the most sense to me. It was all about economics. There is interesting information here: especially in this section: Domestic slave trade and forced migration.
        Frankly, I think we should have let the South go. The United States of The North could have completely abolished slavery, in all forms, and recsinded the Fugitive Slave Act. Cotton was starting to be grown in the other new states. The “Underground RR” was already established. A concerted effort to get the slaves out of the South could have been initiated (no border fences back then! : ))…close all the Northern ports to the slave trade. The Southern economy would have collapsed on itself, that was apparently already underway.

        “The Emancipation Proclamation did not free slaves in the Union-allied slave-holding states that bordered the Confederacy. Since the Confederate States did not recognize the authority of President Lincoln, and the proclamation did not apply in the border states, at first the proclamation freed only those slaves who had escaped behind Union lines. The proclamation made the abolition of slavery an official war goal that was implemented as the Union took territory from the Confederacy. According to the Census of 1860, this policy would free nearly four million slaves, or over 12% of the total population of the United States.”

        “Based on the President’s war powers, the Emancipation Proclamation applied to territory held by Confederates at the time. However, the Proclamation became a symbol of the Union’s growing commitment to add emancipation to the Union’s definition of liberty.[159] Lincoln played a leading role in getting the constitutionally-required two-thirds majority of both houses of Congress to vote for the Thirteenth Amendment,[160] which made emancipation universal and permanent.” Read: Journalist Douglas A. Blackmon’s Pulitzer Prize winning book Slavery By Another Name to see how the 13th Amendment really worked!…many blacks were virtually enslaved under convict leasing programs, which started after the Civil War and continued well into the 1960’s.

        • Tim says:

          There are some parallels with today’s immigration issues and slavery. The fugitive slave act was ignored in a number of northern cities and states. Some local legislation even granted protection to people who harbored fugitive slaves. Essentially these were today’s equivalent of sanctuary cities/states…

          A slave left the south as 3/5 of a person in the eyes of the census and became a whole person in a free state. Yet since most free states still did not allow blacks to vote, those jurisdictions doing the harboring gained power in doing so (again like with illegal immigrants).

          Ironically, when the slaves were freed in the south, they became 1 whole person yet were effectively still disenfranchised. Thus the south gained significant power by freeing slaves (just like conservatives today would likely gain power by granting amnesty and letting hardworking, self-sufficient 1st-generation immigrants with traditional social values vote). Doing the right thing is not without rewards…

          It really is fascinating, and foreboding, reading newspapers from the 1850s & 1860s. Fake news, hyper polarized coverage supposedly funded by mysterious oligarchs, liberals conscientiously defying federal law to the chagrin of conservatives, young men with no firsthand knowledge of war clamoring to solve political differences via violence…

  72. Tim says:

    And the undeclared Afghanistan war turned 16… The lastest quarterly report shows we continue to lose ground despite dropping more bombs (which have been killing more civilians). To date, over $70 billion has been spent on reconstruction in Afghanistan alone — more than 10x the 2005 estimate.

    Can’t we just call it a failure already, take our lumps, and walk away? Unfortunately, Trump intends to stay the course…

    Latest report:

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      The sunk-cost fallacy. Throwing good money after bad is one of our most damaging cognitive traps.

    • K. Beck says:

      See the Vietnam war. War, once started, is nearly impossible to stop. L. Johnson kept it going because his ego got in the way of stopping it. He didn’t want to be the first and only President to pull out of a war and thereby losing it.

      Iraq? We should have never gotten into that one either. Nearly EVERY MOC voted for that giant lie. Seems to me their grandkids should be the ones being sent over there to fight!

  73. cheyenne says:

    And while the Republicans explode or implode as chronicled by many Anews posters on the other side of the aisle Elizabeth Warren told CNN Thursday that the DNC was rigged in Clinton’s favor in the 2016 election. If someone other than HRC had been the Democratic presidential nominee would Trump have won? I don’t think so, the Democrats have only themselves to blame. I know myself, I wrote in Mitt Romney, but if Warren or Sanders had been the nominee I probably would have voted for them.

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      Both major parties are operating as circular firing squads these days.

      Read the following account by Donna Brazile, who took over as interim DNC chair for Debbie Wasserman Schultz. It was published yesterday. Oh. My. God. There is a special place in Hell for Wasserman Schultz.

      • Common Sense says:

        Excellent article Steve!…. Neither party is excluded from Corruption and Deceit!… Time to clean house…..and Senate……2 Term Limits!

        • K. Beck says:

          NO term limits. They have only given lobbyists more power in CA. Lobbyists now write most of the laws here now.

          I vote for a parliamentary system.

      • Tim says:

        I love the outsiders view from the BBC:

        They conclude the article by noting how everyone involved in this news item, on both sides of the isle, is basically a corrupt piece of shit:

        “Mr Trump calls Ms Warren “Pocahontas” because political rivals accused her in 2012 of claiming Native American ancestry to gain an unfair advantage when applying for jobs at Harvard Law School, without proof of such lineage.
        Ms Brazile herself came under fire last year after the anti-secrecy website Wikileaks released hacked DNC emails that revealed she had notified the Clinton campaign in advance of a question the candidate would be asked by CNN.
        Her predecessor at the DNC, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, resigned during the election after her leaked emails appeared to show a co-ordinated effort to aid Mrs Clinton’s campaign.
        Mr Trump is himself under scrutiny in a Justice Department investigation into whether his campaign aides colluded with Russians in an effort to sway last year’s election.”

        • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

          For the same reason, The Economist is my primary news periodical. It’s balanced, sober (with a bit of British wit), and it has a friendly-outsider-looking-in perspective that often seems clearer than American self-examination.

      • cheyenne says:

        Steve, great link. The Wyoming state Democrats have been claiming all year that HRC stole the nomination from Sanders and they replaced their leaders. Now I know why. But, especially revealing are the 2000, and growing, comments on this article.

      • K. Beck says:

        I have always thought Brazile was a party insider who did the bidding of the party. Odd to see this article. Plus, she ran a horrible campaign when Gore was running for President. On the other hand, she had a lousy candidate. He was another candidate who thought he was entitled to the job and didn’t want to do what he needed to do to win. It should have never been that close in Florida [when are the Feds going to force Florida to get it’s voter laws in order?]. I see Brazile has a new book out…and the Clinton campaign isn’t so happy with it. Now I don’t know what to think about her!?

  74. Common Sense says:

    They are Imploding and will Explode soon ….yes! And Yes….The Dem’s only have themselves to Blame as they Railroaded Bernie out of a Win! Not sure if Bernie Would have won or not…..but then…..we never got a fair chance to see!

    Mark down Oct 30th in your Diary….it was the beginning of the end of the #45 Presidency….a day that will be remembered in the History books….if they still use books in the future…..

  75. cheyenne says:

    I am not with the Libertarian policies and I didn’t like Jill Stein’s petition seekers shoving their forms in my face. At present I do not see any other parties outside of the GOP or DNC that I can align with. I am registered as an independent.

  76. cheyenne says:

    And in real news that doesn’t have the GOP or DNC in it. Former Enterprise player Izzy Mathews scored the only CSU touchdown as they lost the Borderwar to Wyoming. Izzy had some impressive runs in the snow in Laramie. I was glad he did well but I was happy UW won. Izzy hurt his shoulder on the frozen tundra but I believe it was just minor. Playing football in November in Laramie is a lot harder than November in Redding. Having lost all three of their rivalry games, Colorado, Air Force and now Wyoming, CSU coach Bobo is getting the dump him calls, especially since Wyoming’s Andrew Wingard, Mountain West defensive player of the year for two years, is from Aurora and CSU didn’t even recruit him.

  77. Common Sense says:

    #45 To meet with Putin in Private one last time! Desperation sets in as the Puppet must see his Puppet Master for tips on how to proceed! We all know they will only be discussing adoptions….right?

    Perhaps there WILL be a mention of N.Korea…..a 15 second talk about that one….perhaps

  78. K. Beck says:

    I guess there is no November, yet!

    Anyway, about those tax reductions for the rich: They already don’t pay taxes on mostly any of their income. Check this out:

    • Tim says:

      Ideally, a simplified tax system would eliminate many of the loopholes used by the rich.

      One of the interesting parts of Trump’s tax plan is to impose a 20% tax on foreign earnings and a 20% tariff on imports. This should take away the incentive for American companies to shift production and/or earnings off shore, which would eliminate some of the issues with tax havens.

      I still think the plan, as a whole, needs to be voted down. But there are parts of it that have merit that I hope will be included in future tax reform efforts.

  79. cheyenne says:

    And the ME TOO! forces are changing politics. Seattle elected it’s first woman mayor in 91 years, Cheyenne elected it’s first woman mayor ever in 150 years last year. King County elected a gay woman as sheriff. Trump is changing politics, just not the way he thought. All those conspiracy theories about what #45 was going to do are falling by the wayside as he is blocked everywhere. The left is going to have to find another villain.

  80. Common Sense says:

    17 New Charges added to the U.S District Court D.C Federal Court Schedule! (Sealed)

    5 additional good folks will be arrested soon to answer to those 17 Charges.

    I know I know….Innocent until proven Guilty…….but I wouldn’t bet against Bobby 3 Sticks!

    Looks to be a Busy Winter for the Administration!

    mmm mmmm…that Nothing Burger…..why….It’s very Filling!

  81. K. Beck says:

    Could someone please spit this off into NOVEMBER? Thanks.

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