Two Bikers Down in Redding: A Cautionary Tale on the Use and Abuse of Social Media

Bryant Krause and Ryan Christopher Rhodes, fellow bikers, visit in Rhodes hospital room. Photo courtesy Ryan Rhodes.

Bryant Krause and Ryan Christopher Rhodes, fellow bikers, visit in Rhodes hospital room. Photo courtesy Ryan Rhodes.

There’s no question Redding is a city on the edge. Deteriorating public safety has created a powder keg of citizen resentment toward the city’s leadership that’s just waiting for the slightest spark to touch it off.

This resentment plays out hourly on Facebook pages such as “The New Redding Crime” and “Take Back Redding,” and last week reached fever pitch when the story that two bikers had been attacked by transient Latinos near Park Marina Drive and the Cypress Avenue bridge in separate but related incidents began circulating on social media.

The alleged attacks took place early in the morning on Friday, June 16. I missed most of the build-up on social media and didn’t become aware of the alleged twin attacks until Monday, June 19, when Action News Now, which serves 175,000 viewers in northern California,  published a story on its website alleging, “Two motorcyclists in Redding [were] attacked within minutes of each other with one ending up hospitalized.”

According to Action News Now, the first victim, Bryant Krause from Redding, was cruising slowly on his Harley-Davidson on Park Marina Drive when he encountered two men and a woman standing in the road near the Cypress Street bridge. When he stopped to speak to them, the two men pushed him and his motorcycle over and began pummeling him in the street.

When one of the men threatened to stab him in the neck, Krause found the energy to pick up the Harley and immediately proceeded to the Redding Police Department (less than a half mile away) to report the altercation. Krause described his assailants as two Hispanic men, one with a three-dot tattoo near his eye.

Action News Now didn’t interview the other biker, Ryan Christopher Rhodes, who was hospitalized with two broken legs. It did, however, let Krause speak on his behalf.

“He [Ryan] said he was dragged into the bushes, or they were trying to drag him into the bushes,” Krause said. “He kept screaming he couldn’t see anything. Either something was stuck into his motorcycle or thrown in front of his motorcycle.”

The impression given by the story was the attack on Rhodes had occurred at the same location, roughly 15 minutes after Krause’s altercation.

The story was shared on Facebook, where I first encountered it, and being concerned about our present crime wave as well as being an avid motorcyclist, I found its contents alarming, to say the least. Two bikers taken down by a band of marauding ex-convicts! Occurring in the same week as an alleged sexual assault on a jogging trail, no less! More evidence to bolster growing complaints that the city’s leadership is clueless when it comes to stopping crime.

Surely this will be the spark that sets it all off, I thought at first blush. Citizens are going to start taking matters into their own hands. As it turns out, in what I’m calling the “Two Bikers Down” case, one local citizen had already taken matters into his own hands, and his efforts would contribute to the story, which is only half-true, spinning out of control, necessitating intervention by the Redding Police Department.

Action News Now: Coverage you can count on?

I’ll admit I initially got caught up in the heady rush of vigilantism surrounding the case, but upon sober reflection, I noted a number of holes in the Action News Now story, the widest one being that even though there was an alleged victim in the hospital with two broken legs, “Redding Police say they do not have enough evidence to open an investigation at this time.”

Really? No follow up on that? Considering that the second victim hadn’t been interviewed, that the location of his alleged assault was nebulous and no other news agency appeared to have covered the event, I began to suspect the two incidents were not related.

As we now know, thanks to a fairly unprecedented Redding Police Department press release on Tuesday, June 2o, the two incidents are not related.

Krause was indeed assaulted by a group of transients on Park Marina Drive near the Cypress Avenue bridge at 12:32 a.m. on June 16. But the incident involving Ryan Christopher Rhodes occurred more than a mile away in downtown Redding, near the intersection of Gold and Market streets and more than an hour later, at 1:49 a.m.

“Based on physical evidence and statements from witnesses,” the RPD report said, “it has been determined that Rhodes failed to stay on the traveled portion of the roadway and struck a raised curb at the intersection of Gold Street and Market Street. The impact caused him to be ejected from his motorcycle.”

I know the corner well, the Market Street Chicane I call it. Where you turn left off California Street onto Gold Street then immediately right onto South Market. There’s tons of painted lines and crazy signs with arrows pointing in every direction. If you’re just passing through town and you know the road and the traffic lights are with you, it’s a nice left-right combination that breaks up the monotony of the downtown grid.

But if you’re new in town and traveling in the left lane, beware of the curb that closes off half of Gold Street on the second half of the chicane. Stray too far to the outside of the lane and you’ll clip that curb, and on a motorcycle, you could quite possibly go down, hard.

Instead of rounding the corner at Gold and Market streets, Rhodes drove over the curb and crashed heavily. Photo by R.V. Scheide.

Instead of rounding the corner at Gold and Market streets, Rhodes drove over the curb and crashed heavily. Photo by R.V. Scheide.

According to an eye witness who was traveling in a car behind Rhodes, saw the accident, called 911, and helped pull Rhodes off of the street, that’s pretty much what happened. Instead of going around the corner, Rhodes went straight over the curb, lost control when the bike landed, and wound up a broken, bleeding mangled mess three-quarters of the way down the block, near the entrance to the now-closed Wendy’s drive-through.

The RPD press release noted that Rhodes was not tested for alcohol, but added that he admitted to having one beer prior to the accident. I’m not sure why RPD felt it necessary to insinuate Rhodes may have been intoxicated when they have no proof to that effect, but I suspect it may be because the Two Bikers Down story was spreading like wildfire on social media, and the department wasn’t happy about it.

“Social media is a valuable tool for the community and the Redding Police Department,” the RPD press release concluded. “However, it is important to remember that information found in social media is not always accurate.”

A man in search of a memory

As it happened, RPD’s debunking of the Two Biker Down story last Tuesday afternoon occurred immediately after I’d interviewed Rhodes by telephone from his hospital bedroom. Before the press release, Rhodes was insistent that he recalled an object – a brick or a cinder block – being thrown at his front wheel before he was thrown over the handlebars.

Literally 15 minutes after we’d finished talking on the phone, the RPD issued its press release, and Rhodes began issuing lengthy, emotional posts on Facebook, in part to save face—after all, RPD was basically suggesting he made the whole thing up—but mostly to explain that he doesn’t really remember what happened, and he’s been desperately trying to find out ever since.

I nearly dropped the Two Bikers Down story after the RPD debunking, but Rhodes had said some interesting things on the phone. He didn’t come up with the idea he’d been attacked all on his own. From his hospital bed, he’s been communicating with Krause, whom he’d only met the evening of the accident, and their Facebook conversations where were the speculation began.

(Bryant Krause did not reply to my inquiries about this story.)

Rhodes also told me a private investigator had also dropped by his hospital room, unsolicited, claiming to have an eye witness to Rhodes’ assault. Rhodes had fervently believed him, so RPD debunking the notion that he hadn’t been hit by a brick hit him … like the brick he hadn’t been hit with in the first place.

I felt compelled to visit him in the hospital, not just to cheer a fellow biker up, but because there’s a story here, just not the one I was originally looking for.

Ryan Christopher Rhodes has a long recovery ahead after a serious motorcycle accident. Photo by R.V. Scheide

Ryan Christopher Rhodes has a long recovery ahead after a serious motorcycle accident. Photo by R.V. Scheide

I showed up at his hospital room Thursday, the day after articles about the RPD’s press release debunking the Two Bikers Down theory had appeared in the local media.

I say “room” but actually it’s just a bed with a privacy screen around it in a room with many other beds in it. It’s a busy room, with medical personnel, visitors and patients milling around constantly. Rhodes had been here on a Dilaudid drip for nearly a week. Occasionally they wheel him out for another surgery on his shattered lower right leg.

The leg looked swollen and jaundiced under gauze, awaiting yet another surgery. Heavy scabs have formed on Rhodes’ forearms from his elbows to his wrists as well as on the front of his thighs, road rash from somersaulting on asphalt in a T-shirt, jeans and slip-on Vans. A small bone in his left ankle is also broken and the leg is in a splint. Ruptured blood vessels have blossomed on the bottoms of both feet.

Although he lost consciousness after the incident, Rhodes was wearing a full-face helmet and suffered no head trauma. Nevertheless, he doesn’t recall how he lost control of his 2017 Yamaha Bolt, is still foggy about events that happened immediately afterward, and the first thing he can truly recall is waking up in the ER with a tube in his throat.

“I remember seeing a flash of light in my rear view mirror, looking back, and then I was going over the handlebars,” he explained, in fairly good spirits considering the week he’s had. “I remember hitting my head first, then my knees.” Everything else is a blur, including where the accident occurred. “I thought I was near Tiger Stadium,” he said.

That’s understandable, since the 28-year-old single dad/construction worker hails from Burney and isn’t overly familiar with Redding. He’d spent the evening club-hopping on his motorcycle and met Krause on his Harley along the way. The pair struck up a friendship, and capped off the night with beer and cigarettes at Shameless O’Leary’s, just three blocks away from the intersection where Rhodes’ fate was awaiting.

Krause, who had his own date with destiny that evening, left O’Leary’s first. Rhodes says he nursed a Coors Light and smoked cigarettes before leaving a half-hour to an hour later. He says he wasn’t intoxicated and felt perfectly capable of driving a few miles south to his cousin’s house near Churn Creek. He never made it. Not even close.

“I thinking I was screaming from the pain, freaking out,” Rhodes said, trying to recall the accident scene. “I really do remember sensing people were grabbing me, trying to drag me into the bushes. I recall someone saying, ‘Don’t call the cops.’ I thought someone was trying to take my wallet.”

Besides these vague memories of the people gathered around him at the accident scene, that’s all he remembers until waking up in the hospital Friday morning.

 Rhodes was riding a 2017 Yamaha Bolt 950 similar to this. Photo courtesy Yamaha Motors.

Rhodes was riding a 2017 Yamaha Bolt 950 similar to this. Photo courtesy Yamaha Motors.

By Friday afternoon, Rhodes’ family in Burney had been notified their son was in the hospital, but when family members attempted to contact police for information about the accident, all RPD could point to was a case number indicating Rhode’s motorcycle had been impounded for being left in the middle of the street.

No accident report was available, a situation that persisted through the weekend and into the week, until RPD’s press release debunking the Two Bikers Down story was released on Tuesday.

RPD  Lt. Bill Schueller admitted to me that the department had dropped the ball somewhat on communicating with the Rhodes family. The officer working the accident was on the last day of his shift and subsequently went on vacation that Friday. There was a lack of continuity getting the report out over the weekend. By that time, the Two Bikers Down meme was snowballing on Facebook.

Birth and death of a fake news story

To be fair, the combustible atmosphere surrounding the crime debate in Redding had as much to with the Two Bikers Down story going viral as anything else. Once the talk got started, there was no shutting it down.

It began when Rhodes’ sister came to visit him Saturday, June 17 in the hospital, and she showed her brother a Facebook post by Krause about his altercation with transients on Park Marina Drive. Isn’t this interesting, she told her brother, it happened the same night as your accident.

Rhodes instantly recognized Krause, whom he’d only met the night before, and contacted him on Facebook. At some point they began speculating that there incidents might be related. Keep in mind, at the time, Rhodes did not know his accident was more than a mile distant from Krause’s assault and an hour later in time, because no police report on his accident had been issued.

Krause’s description of his assault sounded to Rhodes an awful lot like his own vague memories of people accosting him after his accident. Conversing on Facebook and in person (Krause visited Rhodes in the hospital over the weekend), the pair developed a theory: Because Krause and Rhodes look uncannily alike and drive similar-looking motorcycles, perhaps the transients had attacked Rhodes when he passed through Marina Drive, thinking it was Krause returning to retaliate.

By Monday, that social media speculation had picked up enough steam to generate the error-filled Action News Now story, which as of this writing is still posted without correction.

It also attracted the attention of Dan Ryant, a Red Bluff resident who also happens to be a frequent critic at Redding City Council meetings. Ryant has a background in investigation, and agreed to help Krause and Rhodes find the assailants.

“That really pissed me off,” Ryant told me by telephone from Red Bluff, referring to the errant claim in the Action News Now story that RPD wasn’t investigating the case. Sufficiently motivated, Ryant staked out the Marina Drive area himself and with help from an anonymous source in the transient community, soon found people who matched the descriptions given to him by Krause.

Ryant’s source claimed to have witnessed the group of transients attack both Krause and Rhodes. Ryant took Krause down to the area where the transients were holed up, and Krause identified them as his attackers. Ryant relayed the information that there was an eye witness to his attack to Rhodes in his hospital room in the presence of his parents.

“He just started crying,” Ryant recalls. “He said, ‘So I’m not going crazy after all.’ ”

Rhodes admits that he broke down hearing the information, since he’d been desperately trying to put the pieces of the night back together. The sense that people had been going through his pockets while he lay helpless in the road was confirmed, and from there it wasn’t too far of a stretch to imagine someone had tossed a brick at him, causing him to crash.

But any relief he might have felt was dashed soon after, when RPD finally got around to interviewing Rhodes about the accident on Monday, June 19.

Attempted to interview might be a better way to put it. Rhodes, who didn’t get the officer’s name, was immediately taken aback by the officer’s antagonistic attitude when he appeared at his hospital beside. Apparently, RPD had gotten wind of the Facebook scuttlebutt and was not happy about it. According to Rhodes, the officer was adamant. “He said he wasn’t there to screw me over, he didn’t care if I was drunk off my ass, but he was there to take down an accident report, not an assault.”

Rhodes, believing strongly at the time that he had been assaulted, for all the reasons stated above, balked and refused to be interviewed.

Meanwhile, at roughly the same time, Ryant took the information he had gathered regarding the assault to RPD, a fact confirmed to me by Lt. Schueller. In fact, the transients identified by Ryant’s informant are the prime suspects in Krause’s assault.

But Ryant says he was blindsided by RPD when they informed him the transients couldn’t have assaulted Rhodes, because his accident happened more than a mile away and an hour later and their was already an eye witness to the accident.

Bryant Krause's assault occurred near Park Marina Drive near the Cypress Avenue bridge. Ryan Rhodes accident occurred more than a mile away, near Market and Gold Streets.

Bryant Krause’s assault occurred near Park Marina Drive near the Cypress Avenue bridge. Ryan Rhodes’ crash occurred more than a mile away, near Market and Gold streets.

Ryant, who according to RPD does have an investigative background, immediately realized his informant was mistaken about Rhodes, and is inclined to believe RPD’s explanation for it: Nowadays, even transients have cell phones, and they use social media, too. His informant probably picked up on the Two Bikers Down speculation on Facebook—just like RPD—and embellished their recollections to fit the story.

Shortly after talking to Ryant, on Tuesday afternoon, RPD issued the press release debunking the Two Bikers Down story.

What have we learned here, if anything?

I think most locals agree Redding is a city on the edge right now, an edge that for good or for bad many of us enjoy expressing on social media. The Two Bikers Down story illustrates how one small slip up by a civil servant, in this case an understandable weekend delay in a traffic accident report, can quickly explode into a potentially lethal situation in our current atmosphere of distrust and anger.

Suppose someone without Ryant’s investigative experience had taken it upon themselves to track down the transients who allegedly attacked Krause and Rhodes? To be honest, I’m not sure how comfortable I feel about Ryant’s investigative activities, even though RPD vouched for him. Do we really want private citizens poking their noses into every alleged crime posted on Facebook?

That’s not necessarily a rhetorical question nowadays. Some people think we do. It’s worth noting that Bryant did locate the people RPD suspect of attacking Krause. He definitely wasn’t all wrong.

Ryant didn’t say so, but I sensed that he feels badly about Rhodes predicament and his whole involvement in the affair. As an investigator, he knows he should have nailed down the location of Rhodes’ accident—there’s that delayed police report again—before taking the informant’s word on events as the gospel truth and presenting it to Rhodes and his family as airtight evidence.

Bryant remains concerned that some folks on social media are still clinging to the Two Bikers Down story, claiming the RPD is covering something up. He stressed that he had the utmost respect for the department.

As for RPD, they seem to be relieved the whole thing is over.

“It was a strange set of coincidences, circumstances, speculation and not knowing,” said Lt.  Schueller.

The not knowing remains the worst part of it for Rhodes, now facing six to nine months of recovery from his injuries. I suppose the good thing about it is he’s aware that he doesn’t know some particulars of the accident and may never know. Once he’d been informed of the time and location of his crash, it wasn’t hard to drop the belief he’d been waylaid by a brick.

“I’m not a narcissist, you know,” he told me from his hospital bed. “I’m just going to take this as a wake-up call.”

The orange paint marks the sport where Ryan Rhodes finally came to a stop after a horrific motorcycle crash.

The orange paint marks the sport where Ryan Rhodes finally came to a stop after a horrific motorcycle crash.

I went down to the accident scene at Market and Gold streets before visiting Rhodes. I stopped in at Shameless O’Leary’s and asked people in the bar if they’d heard about a motorcycle accident nearby recently, just around the corner. Happened just before last call on Thursday night, I told them. He was supposedly drinking a beer in here. Was anyone making a scene?

No one knew nothing. Which is as it should be. Or at least it’s to be expected.

Outside the bar it was 111 degrees and I was thankful the accident site was such a short distance away. I imagined I was Ryan Christopher Rhodes, heading toward the Market Street Chicane on my fairly brand new Yamaha Bolt, Japanese V-twin reliably throbbing away between my legs, rounding the left-hand entry corner on the inside with a little enthusiasm, goosing it down the short straight, hitting the left-hand exit a little too hot and … there’s that curb crossing the far side of Gold Street right underneath my wheels.

Boom, I’m down. Anyone this side of Valentino Rossi would be down.

There are several fresh black marks on the curb, so it’s difficult to say where exactly Rhodes hit the curb. The spots where he and his bike tumbled down the street were still marked with orange spray paint from the traffic investigators. Next to one paint mark was what looked like congealed blood.

It’s a considerable distance from where Rhodes hit the curb, indicating that he may have struggled to save the bike before he finally went down. He doesn’t remember doing anything, not even touching the brakes. At any rate the beast threw him to the ground where he was knocked cold and both his legs were broken. He knows he’s lucky to be alive.

A wake-up call indeed.

R.V. Scheide
R.V. Scheide has been a northern California journalist for more than 20 years. He appreciates your comments and story ideas.
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65 Responses

  1. Randall Smith says:

    Really appreciate this information and the time taken to clear this story.  Our sound bite age feeds this rush to judgement which only sound investigative reporting can fix.

     

     

  2. Richard Christoph says:

    Excellent article, R.V.

    Thanks for the time and effort you invested in discovering what actually occurred.

  3. Beverly Stafford says:

    Thanks, R.V.  I’m not being facetious, but what condition was the bike in after the incident?  Still rideable?

  4. Carter Slade says:

    It’s admirable you are sticking up for the  so called biker crowd but in reality RV, this story starts when 2 guys leave a bar at closing time after having only “1” beer and it really doesn’t matter what they were riding or driving. They could have been driving city garbage trucks. Folks who have been prosecuted for DUI have 2 general no no’s in common – Leaving the bar too late and telling the officer who pulled them over – “I only had one...”

    The law is not going to be infallible, the news folks often botch the story but please, don’t gloss over the possibility of drinking and driving, as it should be (your words bro). The only thing I find surprising is that the 2 “bikers” got out without a sobriety or blood test. It would put all this ‘viral” speculation to rest and you would be writing about something else.

    Speaking of social media- Powder kegs, a city on edge, fever pitched resentment, an inept police department, a local but bumbling news org and lastly a viral investigative story. Viral? All that all sounds a bit social media heavy to me. Hell, it sounds like somebody wanting to start an inner-city. Sure, some Redding folks are pissed because of the crime and the seemingly inability of our local leadership to establish a plan but a powder keg? Fever pitched resentment? Please, its podunk Redding, not Ferguson Mo. Now there was some powder keg type resentment.

    I don’t think the city is all that on edge but your stories can sometimes get us to the edge of our seat. BTW,  anewscafe did a story a ways back on some concerned citizens taking back Redding.  http://anewscafe.com/2014/07/17/redding-business-owner-take-back-our-city-stand-silent-for-change/ The folks involved didn’t seem all that threatening or down on the city leadership.  They just wanted safer streets. Even late at nite when the bars are closing.

    • R.V. Scheide Jr. says:

      Carter, it’s true, Redding isn’t Ferguson. But on social media and in city council meetings, sometimes it sounds like one.

      • Carter Slade says:

        Well RV, when the police shoot down an unarmed Yamaha rider, I’ll lead the Biker’s Lives Matter protest…

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      Before we try to convince ourselves that our crime rates are vanishingly small and inconsequential compared with some distant hell-hole ghetto suburb of a big-city hell-hole in the hell-hole midwest, consider that just by California standards, we suck out loud.  There are 58 counties in California.  According to California Department of Justice statistics, Shasta County has the fourth-highest per-capita violent crime rate in the state (2005-2014).  According to the State Attorney General Office, we climbed into 3rd place as of 2013.

      Fail.

      More than once, I’ve had locals tell me that per-capita stats don’t really matter—that’s just a bunch of statistical fancy-talk. We’re fine, compared with how many total violent crimes there are in big cities.

      So it’s no big deal that your family members are three times as likely to be victimized by violent crime in Shasta County as they are in Marin County, and twice as likely to be victims of violent crimes as they would be in many of the other counties in the state…….because look at the total number of violent crimes there are in Los Angeles!

      There are times when the ignorance is truly mind-boggling.

      • Iva blep says:

        Then u look at the fancy stats of Redding people that have an actual education  ….  it may have a lot to do with the crime rates . And maybe with how they perceive statistic data in general.

        It probably has a lot to do with how our community reacts to news and social media, together and seperately. 

      • matt says:

        The crime rate in Redding is higher than the national and state average for both property and violent crime. Property crime is comparable to other California cities with similar demographics I.e. Rural urban centers that are not upscale suburbs of larger urban area. For example Roseville has extremely low crime rates, but it has a median family income that is more than double Redding.

        Violent crime does appear to be marginally higher than comparable cities, maybe 10-20% higher per capita. Many cities in California have worse property crime rates or worse violent crime rates per capita – or both. Notable examples are eureka, red bluff, Stockton, Sacramento, Fresno, and San Francisco. Sacramento and Fresno are roughly comparable to Redding. Stockton’s crime numbers are notably awful.

        I am not saying this to try to dismiss any perceptions that Redding has a crime problem. Redding has a crime problem. I am a homeowner in this community and I am very concerned about crime.

        I am trying to dismiss the perception that crime in Redding is exceptional compared to the nation or state, it is not. Current crime levels do not even appear to be historic highs. Crime levels have remained somewhat static throughout the past few years with crime peaking around 2008 and then tapering off until 2011 or 2012 where there was a slight bump in property crime.

        One caveat: 2017 crime numbers are not out, but 2016 saw a significant but not earth shattering bump in violent crime. We should all be looking for the 2017 numbers to determine if this bump is an anomaly or a trend.

        All of my data came from the California Department of Justice.

  5. Larry Harris says:

    Thorough reporting takes shoe leather–something social media doesn’t offer.  This was a shoe leather story.  Appreciated.

  6. Anita Lynn Brady says:

    The latest “citizen” group is 530 Vigilante on Facebook and they clarify their intentions with their group name.

    Thank you, RV. This is the kind of miscarriage of justice that got people (especially minorities) pulled from jails and lynched. Shame on this community, and the man Ryant who I wonder how much he paid his informant for that stellar information. As if the RPD doesn’t have enough to do, now they have to debunk Fake News during their busy day.

  7. A. Jacoby says:

    Thanks R.V. for a clear eyed, well researched, dispassionate report, on what some on social media would like to turn into a fire-storm. GOOD JOB!!! thanks

  8. Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

    RV’s final header reminded me of the final scene from the Coen Brothers’ movie, “Burn After Reading.”  Heck, the whole story reminded me of that movie, including the cluelessness of some of the characters.  I feel especially bad for Rhodes who, because he couldn’t remember what happened, was eager to fill in the blanks and got led deep into the woods by someone who was eager to have their stories dovetail.

    That’s where it gets weird for me.  I understand Rhodes wanting to know what happened to him.  I don’t understand Krause’s apparent desire to help flesh out Rhodes’ story with factoids that matched his own alleged assault.  What’s the motivation for that?  Did Krause think that a matching story would give his own story more credibility?  His refusal to respond to R.V. kinda adds to the stench of fishiness.

    And yeah, as Carter Slade suggests, it’s asking a lot to have us believe that both bikers were sober, given that they were club-hopping deep into the evening.  The saying is that nothing good happens after 2 am, but it might as well be midnight.

    Heal quickly and completely, Mr. Rhodes.

    • Carter Slade says:

      I wonder Steve, would you be so quick to wish this guy ‘heal quickly” wishes if he had hit somebody with his bike right after leaving a bar at 1:30 in the morning…? Would any of you? And would the 2 be poor bikers or motorcycle riding morons?

      • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

        He seems like a bit of a sad sack, and I feel sorry for him. His injuries are severe, and being laid up for months on end can be financially devastating.  I do hope he recovers, and I hope he learns from the experience.

        The answer to your hypothetical “…if he had hit someone…” would depend on the circumstances.  Sometimes an accident is just an accident. As it happened, he didn’t hurt anyone but himself. We can speculate as to whether or not he was sober enough to ride, but the bottom line is that neither of us really knows.

  9. Brandon says:

    “attacked by transient Latinos”

    Is it really necessary to state a person’s race, or is this a racist comment?

    • Barbara Rice Barbara Rice says:

      Brandon,

      Here is the article we published about the investigation, taken exactly from the press release.  “Hispanic” is the term used by RPD.

      http://anewscafe.com/2017/06/21/rpd-investigates-separate-motorcycle-incidents/

       

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      “Latino” isn’t a race, but I catch your drift.  It’s certainly not racist on the part of the reporter to report what the alleged victim says.  If the attack happened, it describes in part the identity of the criminals.  If the attack is fabricated, it goes to the motivations of the teller of the tale.

      My knee-jerk reaction was “Papini.”  A kidnaping story, allegedly by two Latina women, that I still find highly implausible.

      • Beverly Stafford says:

        We haven’t heard anything about the Papini case since the Papinis were supposedly writing a book about the incident.

        • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

          Nothing from the Papinis, and nothing from the Sheriff’s Department regarding the status of its “ongoing investigation.”  :::COUGHbullshitCOUGH:::

      • Carter Slade says:

        I agree Steve. If the Redding PD is guilty of one thing it seems to be gullibility. Our Sheriff too. Man, in my day, you didn’t even have time to say ‘”I only had  one” if you were standing next to your mashed up  ride at 1:30 in the morning. You were hooked up and headed down town before you could say who the bleep is Miranda?  ‘Course, back then, we really didn’t have transients to blame stuff on…

        • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

          Gullibility?  I think that’s charitable of you.

          They’re pros.  My darker demons say they usually know bullscheisse when they sniff it—but two things keep them from calling bullscheisse right out loud:

          1.   What if it turns out you’re wrong, even if that’s a remote possibility?  (I think this mostly applies to RPD—exercise extreme caution before calling BS.)

          2.  If you hold elected office, it pays to pander to the prejudices of the majority of voters.  (I suspect this applies more to the Sheriff, especially regarding the Papini case.)

          • Carter Slade says:

            How about exercising standard protocol – A sobriety field test for the one and a blood test at the hospital for the other? Standard procedure. If one of these so called bikers killed someone as they were “throbbing” their way home as RV describes, after a documented late evening at the bar at 1:30 at nite, and if the PD failed to administer the tests, I think voters would be down the list of the Redding Police Dept problems…

          • R.V. Scheide Jr. says:

            The reason RPD didn’t test Rhodes was he was immediately sent to surgery when he arrived at the ER. RPD told me it is protocol to test people in accidents such as this, but in this case, they were unable to do so because of the severity of his injuries. RPD is not allowed to use any blood that may have been drawn, it has to be an official test.

  10. karen says:

    Im sorry but in what universe is it unfeasible to walk a mile in an hour???

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      I think that the larger points are that: (1) it wasn’t the same spot, as originally reported on social media, and (2) a trailing motorist saw Mr. Rhodes hit the curb and lose control of his motorcycle all on his own. His recollections of interveners trying to rob him and drag him into the bushes were either false memories resulting from his boggled state of mind immediately after the crash, or memories built upon the suggestions of others who took an interest in his crash, possibly to forward their own agendas (whatever those are).

      • K. Beck says:

        A friend of mine was run over by someone backing out of her driveway. My friend was on a bicycle. The only thing she remembers is seeing the woman backing out of the driveway. There was nothing she could do to avoid being hit. Next thing she remembered was being in the hospital. She was wearing a helmet, so there was no damage to her head. She just blacked out.

        I flipped my car over the oleanders dividing I5 down by Orland once. Luckily there were two off duty EMS guys driving by. They took care of me until the ambulance carted me off. The only part of the whole thing I remember is waking up, after dosing off, seeing the car heading for a field on the right side of the road, and, unfortunately, yanking the steering wheel to get back on the road. Next thing I know I am upside down in the car. I do remember hearing squealing tires. I am somewhat surprised the hospital didn’t do a blood alcohol test for either of the two motorcycle riders. The hospital in Red Bluff took a urine sample from me, theoretically to make sure I didn’t have any internal injuries to my kidneys, but I suspect it was checking for drugs. I was in the ER for HOURS because the only injuries I had was a gash in the back of my head and a broken finger. A CHP patrolman came to take a report. He made me remember what happened, but the only thing I could tell him is what I wrote here. Then he asked me if I could remember if I my tires were off the pavement. Had to think about that for awhile, but the answer was “yes.” To which he replied, “There is no way you can come out of a spin out if your tires are in the dirt.” A little late for that advice!…should have just driven into the field! Oh well.

        Anyway, I think many people black out when they are in a similar situation. The people who came to help Mr. Rhodes probably did go through his pockets looking for an ID. They may have also moved him around, but that would not have been a good thing to do. It could have also been the EMS people moving him around to check out injuries and get him on the cart.

        • R.V. Scheide says:

          I tried to do some research on memory loss in accidents with no head trauma and couldn’t find anything definitive on the topic.

          • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

            Retrograde amnesia is pretty common with concussions.  Helmets prevent a lot of skull fractures and reduce the severity of concussions somewhat, but if your head goes from 40 mph to 10 mph in an instant, your brain is going to get compressed against the inside of your skull.

    • R.V. Scheide Jr. says:

      In the original version of the story, it was 10 to 15 minutes. Also, what Steve said.

    • K. Beck says:

      THIS universe! It is very feasible to walk a mile in 60 min. I used to walk to the CalTrain station in 20 min. It was a mile from my house. That was with two red lights I had to wait for sometimes and cross a busy 4 lane street with only a crosswalk, no light or stop sign.

      “Three minutes, forty-three seconds, and thirteen hundredths of a second is the fastest that a human has ever run a mile, as far as we know. Hicham El Guerrouj, a Moroccan middle-distance runner who was then twenty-four years old, accomplished the feat in 1999, averaging slightly more than sixteen miles per hour as he sped around Rome’s Olympic Stadium track.” http://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/how-fast-would-usain-bolt-run-the-mile

       

  11. Randall Smith says:

    Next time you are in Oakland, CA., take a minute to leave the I-550 Freeway a block from the once elegant Hotel California.  You will observe a tent city under the freeway straight out of a futuristic post apocalyptic world.  We are on the verge of anarchy where individual responsibility counts for nothing and personal entitlement means everthing.  Big Bummer for those coming to replace us.

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      I’ve seen that tent city, but I don’t see it existing primarily as the result of a failure of moral standards.

      We’re coming up on 4 decades of policies engineered to ensure the decline of what was once America’s economic engine—the middle class—and replace it with a system of haves and have-nots.  The über-wealthy have cornered more than 50% of America’s vast wealth, continue to hoard an increasing fraction of that wealth, and have put in place a plutocracy designed to make it so.  The middle and working classes have been in decline for 30+ years, ever since the advent of the ongoing “Reagan Revolution.”

      Some people struggle as hard as they can against the tide. Many young people have resorted to forming alternative economies that afford decent standards of living now, but little hope of a secure future.  Others, many of whom are older and have rolled the dice and lost more than once, simply give up.

      Thirty years ago I was giving this advice to young people: Work hard in school so that you don’t have to settle for a government job.  I don’t give unsolicited advice these days, but if someone asked?  Get a government job and hold onto it.

      • JeffG says:

        The middle class only started declining under Regan? Sounds like revisionist history to me; I seem to recall the middle class in steep decline during Carter’s reign, the origins of which can be traced back to the “stagflation” which began under Johnson.  Who knew spending money you didn’t have and printing money to pay the piper could have such a deleterious effect on middle & lower-income households.  I’m sure glad we learned never to engage in such policies again!

        • K. Beck says:

          https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

          Top 3 Presidents who added the most to the national debt:

          1048% F.D. Roosevelt, he had the Great Depression/New Deal & WWII to deal with.

          727% W. Wilson, WWI.

          186% R. Reagan. The Cold War? Read the whole article: https://www.thebalance.com/president-ronald-reagan-s-economic-policies-3305568 Under Reagan, government spending increased 2.5 percent annually. By the end of Reagan’s two terms, the national debt had more than doubled.

          • JeffG says:

            They’ve all done it — Eisenhower was the last to run an annual surplus (in 1957).  Where the numbers above get overshadowed is when you consider the unfunded liabilities.  Social Security, created under FDR, has $30T in obligations by “virtue” of its pyramid-scheme structure (today’s SS taxes aren’t saved/invested for tomorrow’s retirement but are instead used to pay today’s retirees). Medicare & Medicaid, created under Johnson, have $50T in liabilities, about half of which was caused by GW Bush’s Medicaid Part D expansion in 2003.

            Even Keynes felt spending should be countercyclical with deficit spending occurring only during recessions and to be offset by higher taxes during economic booms.

      • R.V. Scheide Jr. says:

        Steve Towers, I do believe the current resentment being expressed toward the city and its employees has much to do with job status.

    • K. Beck says:

      RPD:

      “However, it is important to remember that information found in social media is not always accurate.”

      If you are a big consumer of Face book, you should take all of what you read as “opinion” unless there is a link sending you to a verified media source. I have read all kinds of stuff on Facebook: “Chief Piolette should have been fired the minute he took that money from Bethel.’ ? Bethel owns the Civic Auditorium.? Really, these are comments from people who know nothing and state their opinions as fact. Anyone can post anything on “social media.”

       

  12. Dick says:

    Action News (CBS/NBC Chico) have finally taken that page down.

  13. Justin says:

    Hey Scheide.

    This story just got more interesting, did you see the story that just dropped on KRCR? WOW

    http://www.krcrtv.com/news/local/shasta/disturbance-in-transient-camp-leads-to-injuries-possible-charges/565262592

    I think (hope) the list of ccw holders / instructors just got a little shorter…

    • R.V. Scheide Jr. says:

      I wish I could say I was surprised.

      • Justin says:

        bummer.

        I am as hard core for the 2nd and anti bum as can be, but these dudes were so wrong… Besides that, no matter what you they say about the homeless, they are people too,..

  14. Yeah, in related news, here’s what Barbara Rice posted a little while ago ..

    http://anewscafe.com/2017/06/26/investigation-into-vehicular-assaults-continues/

    • Steve Murray says:

      I find this “case” to be complete bulls____.  Every  problem, every twist, every questionable move in this episode stems from a couple of talentless, and impaired motorcyclists doing stupid and moronic acts on their said motorcycles. Motorcycles are fun and useful, but require immense skill and concentration to operate safely, including wearing proper safety clothing. As a rider of 40 plus years I’ve had my share of incidents, some my fault, some not….. but these two idiots were really asking for trouble that night, and boy did they get it. I have very little sympathy for them at all considering their ills are self inflicted. Harsh maybe, but I feel worried  for the taxpayer who I’m sure will be somehow footing the bill for much of the aftermath.

      BTW RV check out your use of there/their in your article.

       

       

       

       

      • Barbara Rice Barbara Rice says:

        Steve,
        The article is taken verbatim from the police press release. All credit – and all criticism – is theirs.

        • Carter Slade says:

          I think Mr Murray is referring to the 2 Bikers Down article and I agree completely. The 2 aren’t bikers (yea, I know, it makes for a better story). They just happen to ride motorcycles. I have horses but I don’t call myself a cowboy. If you want to see real bikers, go out the Hells Angel clubhouse out by Whiskeytown come this 4 of July but I wouldn’t get too close.  The story title should have been 2 Not-So-Smart Guys On Motorcycles and one of them is obviously now proving that with the homeless dust up. Really? On a minor note, real bikers don’t just hang in pairs and they would never leave a bar that late on their bikes ever, cause they know that’s just giving John Law an excuse to roust them…

  15. R.V. Scheide Jr. says:

    So, if anyone has read the most recent police report, two of the subjects of this story actually went out with guns (legal guns) looking for the perpetrators. Apparently one transient was hit by a car during the commotion. Funny thing is, I interviewed one of the guys BEFORE they went and did this. So I guess this is maybe more than a cautionary tale. Consider it a warning!

    • Carter Slade says:

      Well if you’re the real biker here RV, why is your story titled 2 Bikers Down…?

    • Steve Towers Steve Towers says:

      So the two guys who I suspected were the bad actors in R.V.’s original article turn out to be bad actors.

      Krause, if I may be so blunt, comes off as the product of mating a weasel (disposition) to a gnat (intelligence).

      Ryant seems like one of those rage-a-holics who can’t wait to use his “legal gun” on someone he deems worthy, to the extent that he goes out trolling for trouble after midnight.  I’m flummoxed as to why he’s intervening in Redding’s problems—including his carping at City Council meetings—when he lives in Red Bluff.  Have you already taken care of RB’s problems, Mr. Ryant?

      If the members of Krause’s entourage don’t get their CCPs revoked, it’s an open endorsement of vigilantism on the part of our local sheriff’s departments.

  16. Common Sense says:

    No R.V….if you want to see some Real Bikers….. the sign is on the Gate….it’s on the way up the hill to Whiskeytown

    ( on the left)….the gate will be open on the 4th…….you can park your yamaha on the other side of the beer truck…the one with the 16 kegs in it….

  17. Joanne Lobeski Snyder says:

    Thank you for a great article R.V.  At times I felt as though I should, while reading War and Peace have a cheater card for all the main characters.   Ryan, Bryant and Ryant…..You did an excellent job of untangling and reporting what really happened, and how and why everything went awry with misinformation and reporting about two different events.

     

  18. cheyenne says:

    This reminds me of the tale several years ago where a man riding an ATV out by Millville claimed to have been pulled off his ATV by a mountain lion.  It was found out he was just trying to impress his girlfriend,

  19. Tom says:

    Just want to say how much I appreciate the articles and sensible responses I’ve been seeing on here. For weeks I’ve been tracking the local stories and social media commentary and have been just this side of infuriated at some of the dialogue. I stumbled upon Mr. Scheide’s June 14th article (“…Cry For Help…”) and immediately became a fan. After reading the comments I became a fan of several of the readers here, too.

    I’ve been taking the time since to catch up on backlogs whenever I can.

    This article was another fantastic, sensible entry and, again, the comments have been superb. I hope to, intend to, join the conversation as soon as, and as often as, I can.
    Thank you, Mr Scheide (RV, if I may?), for your engaging efforts. And thanks to the rest of you for giving me a place to gain local insight and perspective without the vitriol and shortsightedness I tend to pick up elsewhere.

    I’m a subscriber here now. 😉

    • Welcome to A News Cafe.com, Tom. We’re glad you’re here.

    • Common Sense says:

      Welcome Tom!….it’s the only forum in our area that # 1. Doesn’t filter, delete or edit one’s comments (unless they are Way out of hand)….and #2 Doesn’t allow hateful, spiteful speech, but allows individuals to express their opinions on topics….Yes, it gets a little heated occasionally, but overall….it’s the best site on the Internet for Redding, and the Issues regarding Redding……and when you have two opinions that are 180 degrees apart…It’s to be expected….that’s what leads to learning and growth!….Hopefully….lol

      After all….if we didn’t have Contrast….how could we grow?

      • Tom says:

        Thank you, Doni, and thank you, Common Sense!

        I just read and caught up on the latest Scheide article, another brilliant piece. You’re absolutely correct, Sense, that this is THE place to get intelligent commentary in the Redding area, about Redding. Every time I read you and the others here, I want to share with those social media sites that tend to knee-jerk react to every snippet of news with vitriol and intolerance. Maybe I will; they could use a good example of public commentary.

        It’s absolutely okay to be miles apart in our views. It is not okay to be a schmuck about it. 😉

        Thanks again, you two, for the warm welcome. I’m here daily, watching and reading. So far, the points I’ve wanted to make have been made brilliantly by one of you before I get my say.

        Keep it up!

  20. Jim says:

    Thinking back.the original RPD last shift before extended weekend is an old saw of an excuse for non compliance to strivkt passage of IMPORTant  details,See GRAND NURY REPORT,dead body of man who surcimed to extream exposure finally lovated yhree weeks after initially reported missing .G J  2011-2012 . Clearly an all to common occurance in Shasta county .It’s in the book.just another &dodge ball manouver.

  21. Sean says:

    Comment on the reporting.

    It’s seldom in this day and age that we see well written articles with actual investigative reporting.  Generally I see articles re-written after reading another journalist report, then they’re filled with typos, errors, and incomplete sentences left open ended.  R.V. wrote a well thought out article, not agreeing with all the points of view, just appreciate the article.

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